Champions League !

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Originally Posted by ARSENALRULES

we have a good chance this year we are playing well in europe and have came close in the last few years...........Liverpool were in my opinion very lucky to beat us last year......come on the Gunners.......

Isn't that something you should have in order to win it, luck? If you look at it we were lucky to beat you, you never dominated the play but you deserved it more than we did. But I would certainly say Chelsea were lucky to beat us, in the first leg we outplayed them, terrible indecisiveness from Riise at the end cost us, and we for the most part at the Bridge we played better than Chelsea but they went through, luckily. Then in my opinion Man Utd were lucky to beat Chelsea, Chelsea played better than Utd on the night, and then Utd got lucky with the penalties. Use do have a chance as do we, Man Utd and Chelsea because we are all very strong at the moment. I hope your not basing your opinion on the Porto game solely because against Kiev when I watched, it wasn't what I would call impressive, it's what I would call lucky .

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Originally Posted by Jeb1

Isn't that something you should have in order to win it, luck? If you look at it we were lucky to beat you, you never dominated the play but you deserved it more than we did. But I would certainly say Chelsea were lucky to beat us, in the first leg we outplayed them, terrible indecisiveness from Riise at the end cost us, and we for the most part at the Bridge we played better than Chelsea but they went through, luckily. Then in my opinion Man Utd were lucky to beat Chelsea, Chelsea played better than Utd on the night, and then Utd got lucky with the penalties. Use do have a chance as do we, Man Utd and Chelsea because we are all very strong at the moment. I hope your not basing your opinion on the Porto game solely because against Kiev when I watched, it wasn't what I would call impressive, it's what I would call lucky .

You need an element of luck particularly with referee decisions. That game against Liverpool was poor decision however we didnt play as well as we can...Against Kiev was a good point.. not impressive but to come back from a goal down to get the away point could prove important towards the end of the group stages.

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Originally Posted by ARSENALRULES

You need an element of luck particularly with referee decisions. That game against Liverpool was poor decision however we didnt play as well as we can...Against Kiev was a good point.. not impressive but to come back from a goal down to get the away point could prove important towards the end of the group stages.

Your right, that Babel penalty decision wasn't a penalty but if you look at where the ref is standing then it looks like a penalty, I was standing in the Upper Centenary and was basically right behind the incident I did genuinely think it was a penalty, when I got home and saw the replays my mind was changed and I thought to myself 'that was lucky' lol. Without luck no team will win the Champions League because the top teams are so closely matched.

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Arsenal are very unpredictable this year, maybe it's wengers year...... it'll be tough though....