Gerrard Arrested for Assault

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Gerrard has been charged with Assault and Affray, released on bail with a court appearance pending on the 23rd January.
Although he has been charged, this doesn't mean he is guilty although it seems more likely. I am as dissapointed about this news as any other Liverpool fan. But during ths thread I have stuck up for Gerrard's actions and I will continue to do so. What really did upset was the fact that Liverpool fans were not sticking by their captain. I understand fans of other clubs twisting their knives about this but when fans of our own club start condemning Gerrard I felt it only right to protect the man in the way I did.
Liverpool F.C. have come out wth a stetement saying they will support their captain as much as they can. Shouldn't we follow suit? It is said by many that Liverpool have the best fans, this doesn't only mean when we just came off at St. James' Park after a 5-1 victory we're singing and cheering, it means we stick by our players and by our team and club no matter what circumstances. Typical glory hunting fan's remarks coming from this thread, the type I despise more than I despise any supporters from any other club in the land. When the goings are good, you jump on the bandwagon and start singing the praises, when the going gets tough like in this case, you the first to start slating.
I realise many of the things I have said in this thread may be wrong because I made the assumption that Gerrard wasn't as petty to do such a thing. I am not afrais to admit that I have been wrong to assume this but as a Liverpool fan this is the only way I could assume it, I was never going to assume Gerrard was at fault, that's not the way you should SUPPORT you club. Like Liverpool have said they will SUPPORT Gerrard, the likes of Danzi and knickerelastic are meant to SUPPORT Liverpool yet they do not SUPPORT Gerrard because it's a bad thing rather than a good thing he is in the press for. Despite me knowing that a lot of the earlier things I said in this thread may have been incorrect I will still stand by Steven Gerrarrd because if Liverpool F.C. and it's fans don't SUPPORT him where the hell would we be without him? Maybe we would be without a whole load of glory hunting fans, but I'd rather sacrifice having these "supporters" in order to still have Steven Gerrard at the club, holding the league title at the end of May, if he isn't in prison at the time, then it's Carragher's job. Lol

EDIT: I have no problems with having fans from different cities and different countries at all. What I have a problem with is a "supporter" only supporting through the good times and not the bad meaning a glory hunter. Don't think I'm taking a dig at foreign fans because I'm talking about fans in general, I had a go at two lads who live 10 minutes away from Anfield last night for having a go at Gerrard in the manner they did.

[Danzi]

Originally Posted by Jeb

Gerrard has been charged with Assault and Affray, released on bail with a court appearance pending on the 23rd January.
Although he has been charged, this doesn't mean he is guilty although it seems more likely. I am as dissapointed about this news as any other Liverpool fan. But during ths thread I have stuck up for Gerrard's actions and I will continue to do so. What really did upset was the fact that Liverpool fans were not sticking by their captain. I understand fans of other clubs twisting their knives about this but when fans of our own club start condemning Gerrard I felt it only right to protect the man in the way I did.
Liverpool F.C. have come out wth a stetement saying they will support their captain as much as they can. Shouldn't we follow suit? It is said by many that Liverpool have the best fans, this doesn't only mean when we just came off at St. James' Park after a 5-1 victory we're singing and cheering, it means we stick by our players and by our team and club no matter what circumstances. Typical glory hunting fan's remarks coming from this thread, the type I despise more than I despise any supporters from any other club in the land. When the goings are good, you jump on the bandwagon and start singing the praises, when the going gets tough like in this case, you the first to start slating.
I realise many of the things I have said in this thread may be wrong because I made the assumption that Gerrard wasn't as petty to do such a thing. I am not afrais to admit that I have been wrong to assume this but as a Liverpool fan this is the only way I could assume it, I was never going to assume Gerrard was at fault, that's not the way you should SUPPORT you club. Like Liverpool have said they will SUPPORT Gerrard, the likes of Danzi and knickerelastic are meant to SUPPORT Liverpool yet they do not SUPPORT Gerrard because it's a bad thing rather than a good thing he is in the press for. Despite me knowing that a lot of the earlier things I said in this thread may have been incorrect I will still stand by Steven Gerrarrd because if Liverpool F.C. and it's fans don't SUPPORT him where the hell would we be without him? Maybe we would be without a whole load of glory hunting fans, but I'd rather sacrifice having these "supporters" in order to still have Steven Gerrard at the club, holding the league title at the end of May.

Don t talk too us who don t support gerrards actions that we are glory hunters. I love football cause of game that it is and for some reason Liverpool is club i like the most watching so i don t care if you think i m glory hunter or what. For me glory hunter is you talking from high and giving lessons how too act on this subject. If all Liverpool fans from Liverpool are like you maybe i should only support my local club. Captain or not he did wrong thing and why should i stick with him? For me personality comes first in life why should not be the same in football world.

About your edit: Same thing if you ask me (cause now you say that we are not glory hunters that ones from liverpool who don t support his actions are). They did not stop their support club when they play good or bad did they? Will they support Chelsea now will i? NO. I will support Liverpool and will want them too win vs any opponent they will play in future. So if i did not get you wrong glory hunter is person who want that liverpool win in every game but don t support gerrard actions last day.

[sa11y69]

oooohhhh we have no stevie for a while!!! whatever will we do?!...hmmm still carry on up at the top i guess ok...he's been charged..i for one will still stick by my words..someone made a comment about scousers sticking together..thats what we do..thru thick and thin..and smudge! as much as i luv ya babe u CANNOT compare stevie to joey barton!!!! anyway..nuff said without me going over the top..he is my kids' hero..he is the lad i sing about in drunken stupors on match days...he is Stevie G...and i wish him all the best

[OP66fozzy]

it means we stick by our players and by our team and club no matter what circumstances

Above is a small quote from Jeb which seems to sum up your stance on the whole situation.

Personally, I don't agree with that sort of standpoint, but I'm just an armchair football fan ( I do support a team, Derby, but I'm not that passionate ).

I managed to go out around Derby and Nottingham for the best part of 20 years, probably drank more most weekends than Mr Gerrard did on the night in question, and never got into a fight or arrested ( and, to be honest, it wasn't that difficult ). If, as a professional sportsman, he looks after his body, he is not going out boozing that frequently, surely it wouldn't be too hard for him to avoid trouble either ?

But does it really matter to him ? I guess not, as with Barton, his skill will still be in demand, and whether he is convicted or not, it won't affect his career ( unlike us mere mortals, for whom a criminal record could seriously jeopardise our careers ).

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Originally Posted by Danzi

Don t talk too us who don t support gerrards actions that we are glory hunters. I love football cause of game that it is and for some reason Liverpool is club i like the most watching so i don t care if you think i m glory hunter or what. For me glory hunter is you talking from high and giving lessons how too act on this subject. If all Liverpool fans from Liverpool are like you maybe i should only support my local club. Captain or not he did wrong thing and why should i stick with him? For me personality comes first in life why should not be the same in football world.

Well I never actually said "Danzi is a glory hunter", I said that your views typifies the usual glory hunting mind-set. How I am glory hunting? I'm not giving any lessons but if you wanted a lesson, then I'd be happy to comply. I'm giving the view point of not only the fans but what seems to be the club as a whole, who have said that they will support Gerrard. As you and I support the club, we support Gerrard as he is part of the club, rightly or wrongly, you should support him as a supporter of the club. Well maybe you should support your local team, that's what you should do in the first place anyway. Captain or not, I would support him. I would supprt Carragher, Agger, Mascherano, Torres, Spearing, Darby, El Zhar, Riera, Keane, Reina etc. in the same situation. I'm not denying that what happened was wrong, I am admitting that me believng that Gerrard was an innocent by-stander was wrong. But that doesn't mean that I won't stand by him, rightly or wrongly so (in many people's opinions wrongly) I will stand by Gerrard, not only as a Liverpool captain, but just as a player. Personality does come first in life and your right, it should and in many cases does come first in football. If a manager doesn't believe a player has the right ersonality and may upset the morale at the club then that player won't be signed. Gerrard has the personality of a fighter, you've seen it on the pitch in every game he has played. There's no doubt that Gerrard's personality is one held in high esteem otherwise he wouldn't have captained his club for 5 years and he wouldn't have captained his country when called upon to do so. He has made a mistake and Liverpool will be willing to forgive and support him and so will I and many of the Liverpool fans around the globe. It's your choice whether you do so or not, but it would put your credentials as a Liverpool fan in doubt in my eyes.

About your edit Danzi: No, I never said that a glory hunter is a fan who supports a team because it is winning. A glory hunter is fan who supprts a team when its doing well, on and off the pitch. Off the pitch at this very moment in time Liverpool F.C. are in a spot of trouble because our club captain and our best player has been charged with assault and affray. We are not doing so well off the pitch and because of this we need more support than ever. Gerrard needs more support than ever, he has made a mistake I realise that but that doesn't mean that I will condemn the man. As he is part of the club I support I will support him under almost any circumstance, this being one of them and in my opinion you should do the same.

[jim1961]

jeez guys, calm down - he got pi***ed, had a fight, got busted.

who cares.

[Mason3105]

Its just bail then magistrats nobody knows what will happen.....

[ExhaustPipe]

Originally Posted by sally69

oooohhhh we have no stevie for a while!!! whatever will we do?!...hmmm still carry on up at the top i guess ok...he's been charged..i for one will still stick by my words..someone made a comment about scousers sticking together..thats what we do..thru thick and thin..and smudge! as much as i luv ya babe u CANNOT compare stevie to joey barton!!!! anyway..nuff said without me going over the top..he is my kids' hero..he is the lad i sing about in drunken stupors on match days...he is Stevie G...and i wish him all the best

Your right Sally, there's no point having this debate with people outside of our city because they don't understand the mind set we all have on thesetypes of situations! Unless they're from Glasgow or somewhere along those lines!

EDIT: I was in The Sandon pub yesterday afternoon with relatives after going on the tour of Liverpool's ground and for those who don't know The Sandon is the pub were Liverpool were founded in 1892 and is a Liverpool pub through and through. When the news came up on Sky Sports News did all the men in the pub begin to condemn Gerrard? No they began to laugh, they weren't happy with the situation but they realise Gerrard is one fo them, he is a human being, a scouser too which doesn't help when in a situation were fighting may come about especially when under the influence lmao.

[corkonianlynda]

Why is it when people like SG reach the top of their profession,there are so many waiting too see them fall.Cant be easy for people like him to go out for a night out without been hassled by everyone from press reporters,drunks and everyone else that are jealous of his success.I saw a program on TV about him a few months ago and he seemed to me like a very decent and honest guy and a true family man.No one knows what happened or how he was provoked into assulting anyone,if indeed he did.I wish SG luck with his court appearance and would like to remind some people here that SG is innocent of any charge until proven guily...

[daddyspoon]

i can see where youre coming from jeb, im a man city fan and stood by barton alot. everyone desreves a second chance, its when its the 3rd and 4th it decomes a little testing.
needless to say it wont affect his career

[ExhaustPipe]

Originally Posted by daddyspoon

i can see where youre coming from jeb, im a man city fan and stood by barton alot. everyone desreves a second chance, its when its the 3rd and 4th it decomes a little testing.
needless to say it wont affect his career

Yer I know what you mean. I mean this is the first time I've heard of these type of problems to do with Gerrard for a very long time. Obviously with Barton he's just had one thing after another after another. I mean the fans have already made achant about the whole thing in support of Gerrard, one of the lines saying "hang the DJ" maybe going a little to far but my point is Liverpool fans will stcik with their club and their players whatever the circumstances are. Like City did for 6 or 7 years with Barton and Newcastle did when he got put in prison. That's the difference between some fans and others. And it's The Liverpool Way as a Liverpool fan you should follow the Liverpool Way and you should follow and support Gerrard through this difficult time.

[BIGSMUDGE]

Liverpool fans and players "sticking together" showing off the new kit for 2009

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Originally Posted by BIGSMUDGE

Liverpool fans and players "sticking together" showing off the new kit for 2009

Well I must give the Birmingham fans together some credit sticking together whilst their being outshone by the Villa year in, year out lol .
The point is that we will support Gerrard because he has earnt our respect and has been a servant at the club for 10 years. I'm not condoning what he did although there is news around saying that his part in the scuffle was only minor but whatever happens we will stand by him because he deserves it.
I'm not happy with that new kit, why are we going to wear trousers instead of shorts and why is it black and white and not red lol. Unless it's away, like Steven Gerrard will be. Ba-boom-chi.

[sa11y69]

Originally Posted by BIGSMUDGE

Liverpool fans and players "sticking together" showing off the new kit for 2009

hehe ur mother gave me a copy of that when i asked for ur school foto...thats u at the back, right??

[BIGSMUDGE]

NO, sorry I was in solitary (some scouser pinched my uniform)

[jockney]

Oh nice one Smudge LOL . Hey Jeb ,Sal , you have to admit its better than the white suits that they wore to the 1996 FA Cup final

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Originally Posted by jockney

Oh nice one Smudge LOL . Hey Jeb ,Sal , you have to admit its better than the white suits that they wore to the 1996 FA Cup final

Lmao, your right about that one . Them suits were possibly the worst suits I have ever seen worn by men in all my life.