check raise = pointless

[daddyspoon]

came back form 40 chips to get a fairly nice position. other than just shoving instead of the check raise i dont know what else i could do to show strength.

Dealt to daddyspoon ]
teebs: with the best hand tho ;o
daddyspoon 150 Chips]
tictalk folds
toptab1 folds
white_wizard 150 Chips]
BabyJ07: lol
praxis1958 folds
BabyJ07: what u have then
teebs folds
BabyJ07 folds
teebs: an ace was good surely
BabyJ07: i had A too
RockDivaD folds
yeoman42 checks
** Dealing Flop ** ]
BabyJ07: what was the other lol
yeoman42 checks
daddyspoon checks
teebs: nevermind then lol
white_wizard: 150 Chips]
BabyJ07: lol
yeoman42 folds
daddyspoon 975 Chips]
white_wizard 825 Chips]
** Dealing Turn ** ]
daddyspoon: 955 Chips]
white_wizard 325 Chips]
** Dealing River ** ]
daddyspoon shows ] three of a kind, aces
white_wizard shows ] a full house, jacks full of aces
white_wizard wins 3125 chips from main pot with a full house, jacks full of aces ]

lost the will to play after

[teebs]

Aye that was bad. In hindsight though...had you led out instead of going for the checkraise, you probably would have won the pot there and then.
Wiz probably thought u smelled weakness on his bet and decided to make a move...

[daddyspoon]

well the idea behind the check raise was to get more chips in the pot

[jimggoldwing]

I am guessing (purely a guess) that had you all-inned pre-flop, Wiz would've called with the Jacks... giving you the same result... some of this is pure conjecture, as your hand history didn't show the chip stacks going in... I am guessing (from experience!) that you had to do some chop-chop in order to get it to post (it was complaining about too many pictures!).

[daddyspoon]

Seat 1: praxis1958 ( 2225 Chips )
Seat 2: teebs ( 3890 Chips )
Seat 3: BabyJ07 ( 4555 Chips )
Seat 4: RockDivaD ( 2234 Chips )
Seat 5: yeoman42 ( 2506 Chips )
Seat 6: daddyspoon ( 2080 Chips )
Seat 7: tictalk ( 1050 Chips )
Seat 8: toptab1 ( 2370 Chips )
Seat 10: white_wizard ( 1450 Chips )

[jimggoldwing]

So you were UTG... I suspect (again, only a guess) that had you all-inned instead of slow-played to build the pot, you'd of had the same result in the end... the flop was beautiful... nasty turn of luck on 4th street, though!

[daddyspoon]

whats funny, i didnt raise preflop because i have bad luck with AK

[T_B_H]

few ways off looking at this

no pre-flop raise, paired board and a flush draw, wiz could have eaisilly put u on a flush draw, or even the 8, so jacks are hard to put down

OK lucky turn, he hit the set, then the river rubbed it in for f/h

aternatively folding JJ after ur check raise would have been a great fold, no 1 then would have know the turn/river.

and anyways wiz is a jammy git, at b/ham i flopped the nut straight, the jammy sod rivered me with a f/h grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[daddyspoon]

iv got no problems with how it was played. just didnt fancy fighting back from next to nothing again. mental note not to check raise or slow play again

[DukeOfDeath]

Raise pre. These are stacking off hands and you stacked off. But you both gotta raise pre. This should have been all in before a face up card even hit the board.

[daddyspoon]

still woulda lost tho

[DukeOfDeath]

Originally Posted by daddyspoon

still woulda lost tho

well that's called being coolered getting AK vs. JJ (and for another thing just being results oriented), you wouldn't stack off deep stacked, just late in tourneys. But if you'd raised preflop he might have respected you on the flop. As played I think you did all you could do post flop. Wouldn't change a thing there.

[Bonik]

Daddy,

As they say crap happens. I remember in one of the WSOP final tables several years ago one pro player did the same stupid thing with his JJs and got the lucky river and won it.

Here, all i can say is you got a bit greedy. You should've all ined after FLOP.

[T_B_H]

just 1 final comment from me on this hand............

the best hand (pre-flop) won

so all you that say the sites rigged etc\; for the river explain

its poker

[daddyspoon]

never said it was a bad beat, just wanted to post what i thought was a interesting hand.

[white_wizard]

ok read all ur ideas on the game,,wot i would like to say is i cannot see anyone elses cards,so i play the hand in front of me,,2 js,if ds had gone all in,i would still have called,as only aces kings queens paired would have beat me,and i play my hand no one elses,for all i know he could be bluffing like bonik with 7 2 lol,he bluffs a lot like a lot of folks on here and tbh,,one thing iv learnt in this game no ur players stenghts,and weakness,,cy on the table ds,,i love poker,,,and gl today m8,,,,,,footy m8

[jimggoldwing]

Originally Posted by white_wizard

ok read all ur ideas on the game,,wot i would like to say is i cannot see anyone elses cards,so i play the hand in front of me,,2 js,if ds had gone all in,i would still have called,as only aces kings queens paired would have beat me,and i play my hand no one elses,for all i know he could be bluffing like bonik with 7 2 lol,he bluffs a lot like a lot of folks on here and tbh,,one thing iv learnt in this game no ur players stenghts,and weakness,,cy on the table ds,,i love poker,,,and gl today m8,,,,,,footy m8

So this only confirms my first reaction back on post # 4!!!

[daddyspoon]

iv not said anywhere that anyone played it badly, with the hands we had and chip stacks we would have ended up all in sooner or later. just thought it was a odd hand. i managed to go from behind to ahead to behind again in the space of 2 minutes.

and the footy is tomorrow

[white_wizard]

yes just noticed,,and its still gl m8