donks as always

[unclepony11]

Im offski!




Everleaf Gaming Game #283136510
***** Hand history for game #283136510 *****
Blinds 15/30 NL Hold'em - 2011/06/27 - 19:17:15
Table 3
Seat 5
Total number of players: 8
Seat 1: norwichrich ( 1195 Chips )
Seat 2: jimggoldwing ( 3395 Chips )
Seat 3: M_80 ( new player )
Seat 4: warkey999 ( 1261 Chips )
Seat 5: toptab1 ( 1155 Chips )
Seat 6: crinkle62 ( 1051 Chips )
Seat 7: dinkydoo ( 907 Chips )
Seat 8: songmaster ( 4331 Chips )
Seat 9: lordflash1 ( 1585 Chips )
crinkle62: posts 15 Chips]
dinkydoo: posts 30 Chips]
** Dealing down cards **
toptab1: wp
norwichrich: ul m8 gg
songmaster 30 Chips]
lordflash1 folds
norwichrich 30 Chips]
jimggoldwing 30 Chips]
songmaster: ty ul
warkey999 folds
toptab1 30 Chips]
unclepony11: that is not "wp" that is DONK PLAY!!!
M_80 has been reseated to this table
jimggoldwing: yeah "wp".... call a 6x BB with 2 3 os
crinkle62 folds
dinkydoo 877 Chips]
songmaster folds
norwichrich folds
jimggoldwing folds
toptab1 folds
dinkydoo does not show cards
dinkydoo wins 165 chips from main pot

[unclepony11]

sorry delete this thread< i posted trhe wron thing

[unclepony11]

this is what i meant to post


Everleaf Gaming Game #283136065
***** Hand history for game #283136065 *****
Blinds 15/30 NL Hold'em - 2011/06/27 - 19:15:54
Table 3
Seat 4
Total number of players: 9
Seat 1: norwichrich ( 1390 Chips )
Seat 2: jimggoldwing ( 3425 Chips )
Seat 3: unclepony11 ( 1350 Chips )
Seat 4: warkey999 ( 1456 Chips )
Seat 5: toptab1 ( 1350 Chips )
Seat 6: crinkle62 ( 1081 Chips )
Seat 7: dinkydoo ( 907 Chips )
Seat 8: songmaster ( 2336 Chips )
Seat 9: lordflash1 ( 1585 Chips )
toptab1: posts 15 Chips]
crinkle62: posts 30 Chips]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to unclepony11 ]
songmaster: n1
norwichrich: n1
dinkydoo: wd
crinkle62: im not bothered tbh lol
toptab1: n1
crinkle62: ty xxx
dinkydoo folds
crinkle62: its just habit now lolol
songmaster 30 Chips]
lordflash1 folds
norwichrich 30 Chips]
jimggoldwing 30 Chips]
unclepony11 195 Chips]
warkey999 195 Chips]
toptab1 180 Chips]
crinkle62 folds
songmaster 165 Chips]
norwichrich 165 Chips]
jimggoldwing folds
** Dealing Flop ** ]
toptab1 checks
songmaster checks
norwichrich checks
unclepony11: 1,155 Chips]
warkey999 folds
toptab1 folds
songmaster 1,155 Chips]
norwichrich folds
** Dealing Turn ** ]
** Dealing River ** ]
unclepony11 shows ] two pairs, tens and twos
songmaster shows ] three of a kind, twos
songmaster wins 3345 chips from main pot with three of a kind, twos ]

[unclepony11]

why would you call that bet with 2/3 os?

[jimggoldwing]

Like I said to you on the table, Tony --- we've all been "donked" and we will all be "donked" again. Take a chill, and we'll see you tomorrow!

[CaptainSandy]

Many people like to see the flop, they believe any two cards can win.
Obviously they are very poor players and will lose many more times than they win, but that's how they choose to play.
We just need to accept it and stop wasting time whinging about it.

[CherryPie]

if i were in songmasters shoes there i may well have called too... plenty of stack so that it wont hurt too much to see flop. lots of ppl calling the raise so i expect most players have got picture cards etc. which means more likely to be looking to hit the low cards/str8s on the board & ppl dont expect it., so if u really hit, u got potential to win a massive pot. wouldnt normally with 2/3os, but still worth a shot. ^ u neva wana b 2 predictable in this game ...

[DukeOfDeath]

Originally Posted by CherryPie

if i were in songmasters shoes there i may well have called too... plenty of stack so that it wont hurt too much to see flop. lots of ppl calling the raise so i expect most players have got picture cards etc. which means more likely to be looking to hit the low cards/str8s on the board & ppl dont expect it., so if u really hit, u got potential to win a massive pot. wouldnt normally with 2/3os, but still worth a shot. ^ u neva wana b 2 predictable in this game ...

I agree. Not a good move by any means, but also neither is raising QTo with already plenty of limpers and many more to act behind. He also did have a sizeable stack. So not an amazing player but not the worst I've seen.

[tattmando]

there was a thread about connected cards awhile back. pros and cons on the subj matter. was it rings or tourney? early in ? but i hear ya,.. i couldn have called w 23os lol sick

[stevo_58]

Good reasons not to call and equally good reasons to call. All depends on so many factors. CherryPie makes the case quite well. I'd say chancy but wouldn't call it donk play.......If it were me I think I might have considered calling and then decided not to........but then again on another day, in a different frame of mind who knows.

[theguvnor]

Tony, no point gettin upset on the free chips side mate, you will always get somebody calling with rubbish.Think of the superb play in the money tourney when Jimmy and i were watching,when you placed 2nd with a nice cash pay out, thats whats it all about bud

[daddyspoon]

i think too many people get credited with thinking when clicking the call button

[phattP]

Ever thought that some of the so called bingo players and donks may be just using a tactic in certain games because they feel that it's a way to win that particular game?
They may well go away to the next game with different opponents, who are using different tactics, and play completely differently.
If you played them once and tagged them as anything, they have an immediate advantage over you the next time you meet them.
People who play poker a lot will know that you adjust your tactics to fit the game you're in. ( even from hand to hand )..
winning at poker once is very different from winning over a month or a year. Tactics are a short term thing,,strategy is a long term thing..
Observe some of the so-called bingo players or donks over a long spell of games. You might find that some of them are far better players than people give them credit for.
And calling what was not a huge raise with 23 os, in this instance turned out to be an inspired bit of gambling..he could have (and no doubt would have) folded if the flop had come down differently...I wouldn't be too quick to 'pigeonhole' him..I've seen him play and he is definitely not a complete novice..
No one can sit at a poker table and say 'please play the way I want you to, so I have a chance of winning too'. That would be simply absurd.Especially on the practice tables..it's where we are SUPPOSED to be learning ( practice )..i.e: making mistakes and trying out our chops..
if we were all good enough players, we wouldn't still be on them..
and,as someone else pointed out, raising with Q 10 is hardly what you could call great play..

[aceman666]

Originally Posted by CherryPie

if i were in songmasters shoes there i may well have called too... plenty of stack so that it wont hurt too much to see flop. lots of ppl calling the raise so i expect most players have got picture cards etc. which means more likely to be looking to hit the low cards/str8s on the board & ppl dont expect it., so if u really hit, u got potential to win a massive pot. wouldnt normally with 2/3os, but still worth a shot. ^ u neva wana b 2 predictable in this game ...

Agree totally with you...he had the deeper stack and lets face it how many times have we folded crap cards to later see them win.A bit of a chancer but hey thats poker.