Please tell me why bother ???????

[outlaw1966]

[IMG]Blinds 50/100 NL Hold'em - 2011/12/29 - 13:50:40 Table 3 Seat 4 Total number of players: 7
Seat 1: Splash68 ( 810 Chips )
Seat 2: teebs ( 4073 Chips )
Seat 3: outlaw1966 ( 930 Chips )
Seat 4: M_80 ( 2937 Chips )
Seat 6: RockDivaD ( 2455 Chips )
Seat 7: stevo_58 ( 1550 Chips )
Seat 8: ZANEGREY ( 670 Chips )
RockDivaD: posts 50 Chips] stevo_58: posts 100 Chips]
** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to outlaw1966 ]
ZANEGREY folds
Splash68 folds
teebs folds
outlaw1966 350 Chips]
M_80 350 Chips]
RockDivaD folds
stevo_58 folds **
Dealing Flop ** ]

outlaw1966: 580 Chips]

M_80 580 Chips]

** Dealing Turn ** ]
** Dealing River ** ]
outlaw1966 shows ]
a pair of jacks M_80 shows ]
two pairs, queens and jacks M_80 wins 2010 chips from main pot with two pairs, queens and jacks ][/IMG]

[T_B_H]

to be honest i dont like J K, especially not suited, only way u seen to win the hand is if you hit a straight

[stjimmy]

JK is a bad hand, very overated. It's an ok raising hand (as you did) but you should never call a raise with in 80% of situations.

[outlaw1966]

I raised 5x big blind then pushed my chips in after flop.....M had nothing and still followed my raise, i had better hand and the script still done me ?????

[Bonik]

as Jazz says Luck box is a luck box

[outlaw1966]

Thats true m8.....as st jammy said on tables , the reason why people call is because they can.....there is no reading the play or the table its just because they have chips they can call and thats all it is

[stjimmy]

Originally Posted by outlaw1966

I raised 5x big blind then pushed my chips in after flop.....M had nothing and still followed my raise, i had better hand and the script still done me ?????

Was a terrible call from M_80 after the flop, and a great continuation bet from you, but you can't blame the script. I would be more suspicious if the script allowed the best hand to win each time.

[teebs]

Yep was there. Terrible call indeed... Dont know what else to say lol

[T_B_H]

call was made with 2-1 ish pot odds. he had top pair Q kicker(also was an over card) on a rainbow board.

to be honest i dont think its the worse call in the word on FREE poker

ok, you could have been holding AA KK QQ AJ etc:, but was just as likely you had AK AQ 10/10 9/9..

must have been a hard decision to call or fold

[sexynomore]

I like your title Outtie x

[outlaw1966]

Your not seeing it right Kev...he never had top pair yes it was a rainbow flop but there was nothing there to call.....if people think that it's a good call no matter if your playing free or cash then I think I need to find another site to play on.

[T_B_H]

oops my mistake, jack was turn card after the bet

[RockDivaD]

outie its op66, happens to me all the time, most raises are called here, price I pay to play here with friends xxx

[ultimodragon]

Originally Posted by outlaw1966

Thats true m8.....as st jammy said on tables , the reason why people call is because they can.....there is no reading the play or the table its just because they have chips they can call and thats all it is

The penny drops,just as it did for me mate,after playing mostly cash this last year,good call

[CODYDOG]

i wish i knew m8 to me it seems the worst starting hands seem to continually win the pot here lately???????

[jazzsinger1]

you both were on over cards...the flop had nothing for either of you.From what i see it is that M did put you on two overcards and beleived that you had nothing on the flop..turn card you both hit,in his place i would have called no question..wasnt a donk play on M's card.He played the player..he beleived outy that you were two over..maynot have put you on JK,but if he hit the jack..he could have put you on pocket 10s or 9s or AK for that matter..there were no bets on the river...but checked it down as neither of you certain that you had a winning hand..i would have believed you would have bet on the river..to call a hand with 2 overcards on this game on this site is very normal..M just clipped a good river.Im pretty certain that M did place you on 2 overcards..actually i have no doubts in my mind,have played with M,and under no circumstances would he play a donk game.Just bad luck outy nothing else.moreover i dont think he had a bad kicker when the J opened on turn.

[teebs]

Originally Posted by jazzsinger1

you both were on over cards...the flop had nothing for either of you.From what i see it is that M did put you on two overcards and beleived that you had nothing on the flop..turn card you both hit,in his place i would have called no question..wasnt a donk play on M's card.He played the player..he beleived outy that you were two over..maynot have put you on JK,but if he hit the jack..he could have put you on pocket 10s or 9s or AK for that matter..there were no bets on the river...but checked it down as neither of you certain that you had a winning hand..i would have believed you would have bet on the river..to call a hand with 2 overcards on this game on this site is very normal..M just clipped a good river.Im pretty certain that M did place you on 2 overcards..actually i have no doubts in my mind,have played with M,and under no circumstances would he play a donk game.Just bad luck outy nothing else.moreover i dont think he had a bad kicker when the J opened on turn.

Jazzy no... lol. Outy went all in on the flop. Raised 5x pre flop. It WAS a bad call...

[theguvnor]

i'd give up and go fishing if i were you outy

[outlaw1966]

Originally Posted by theguvnor

i'd give up and go fishing if i were you outy

Great idea Guv

[jazzsinger1]

ok i see that on the chip count he went all in on flop..shoved all in with nothing on flop?and calling first going all in and M80 didnt think he was overcarded?its possible isnt it?..nice move on outy;s part no doubt but i dont think its a donk play on M's part.i would have gone all in preflop here if i had to make that call.rather play the JK all in preflop than to see the flop as hand looks better than it appears to be..