Daily OP tourneys

[stevo_58]

As we all know the 4 daily OP tourneys don't attract enough players. There have been a few suggestions for ways to try and attract more players to enter. Here's another one.

Why not give the top 3 a ticket to a money game, just like the top 3 in Ultra Outlaws? That way they would still be OP tourneys and would also become satellite tourneys for money tourneys.

Waddya think? Would it attract more players?

[fred913]

Not sure if it would get more players Stevo, but it certainly wouldn't lessen the numbers, at least it is a move to try to improve the numbers, must be a good idea mate.

[daddyspoon]

they would have to be moved to the freerolls section, and a lot of people here dont like change

[KingPete]

hmmm a freeroll for play chips ... that aught to entice a few ? lol

[T_B_H]

if there were free tickets then it cost the site money

i:e 3x $1 tickets per tournament per day ($12) x 7 days = $84 a week x 52 weeks a year, so you see why its probably not possible for a small site to pay for it

[akatiger]

Originally Posted by T_B_H

if there were free tickets then it cost the site money

i:e 3x $1 tickets per tournament per day ($12) x 7 days = $84 a week x 52 weeks a year, so you see why its probably not possible for a small site to pay for it

lets play for cookies......

[blondy1010]

Originally Posted by akatiger

lets play for cookies......

As long as they are Chocolate Chunk Cookies!

Have to raid TBH for the Cookie prize

[T_B_H]

Originally Posted by blondy1010

As long as they are Chocolate Chunk Cookies!

Have to raid TBH for the Cookie prize

OI YOU

paws off me cookies

[teebs]

Hmmm it does sound like a great idea. However, this kind of game usually leads to bingo play....like ultra outlaws, and most other free rolls....complete bingo.

[jazzsinger1]

would simply suggest to increase the prize amount on the op66 tourneys.
honestly to grind for 3 hours or longer at times i think the top 5 should be paid off and a lot more chips.atleast winner 250k chips minimum and accordingly upto no.5.would suggest to increase the buy in amount to 5k instead of 2k.in this way even the newbies get a crack at the tourney and they have something to show for if they win it.look at the propotion of the buy in and the winner of the tourney.
i mean you got people paying 20k for the mini manmoth.winner takes 500k.Does anyone believe its easy to win a gold in the op66 tourney?
the reason here i say this is because i dont thing you can bingo your way thru winning a medal.i still believe there is quality play there,especially in the manmoth which is just once a week.Im sure there must have been some math done as to buyins are this much now and the payoffs.but if we looking to get more people in to play and quality poker we need to be a lot more creative and innovative,whats the downside of trying out something and working out an attractive package on the op66 tourneys?
comments please..

[jazzsinger1]

just for the record from the math point of view-you need to win 15/20 gold medals to have enough to enter the weekly manmoth tourney.
The other option is to bingo your way thru the ring games and try and make 500k.m8 490K wont do..now i would respect any player winning 15/20 gold medals in an op66 tourney,its well done by any standards..well the bottomline is one has to grind thru 3 hours into 15/20 tourneys and WIN to get 500k chips..i think guys winning medals deserve more chips..no question about it..

[yeoman42]

Jazz,good idea,i for one never understood why prizes in op tournies are so low does it cost someone to give them?,i,m sure if it was promoted correctly that there is a decent pay off for placing in these tournies we,d get some new players.

[fred913]

Good idea Jazz, it makes sense to dangle the carrot a little, I'm sure your idea would increase the numbers and I might have enough chips to play the mammoth and get a grand slam, its the only one I've missed.

[DukeOfDeath]

I agree. I mean all you're doing is handing out free chips. You don't have to worry about inflation . If we can afford unlimited refills, we can afford that.

[jimggoldwing]

There is some history behind all this... going back to the old script, we did have bigger prizes on tournies, but we also had the infamous 5% tax on chip stacks that were over 500k. We also had the old 1-million daily tournament... when we moved to a new script, and the 4 daily's were created by name (versus the rolling 5-hour window), the payouts were limited by the script to the buy-in. Hence, with 2-k buy-in's, no one will be building chip stacks off these tournies... it has been a case of play for glory (medals, points, KP medals, etc.).

When we lost the old 1-million daily tournament, by special request, a new tournament here was added (private label to OP66 only) and that is the mini mammoth, where there is a guaranteed cash payout.

All that being said... while many do not play the daily's for the chips, clearly some would be enticed to play if there were guaranteed payouts, similar to the mini mammoth. And true enough, to win one of the daily's generally requires 2+ hours of effort. And further, true enough, in order to qualify to play in the weekly Mammoth, one has to earn a chip stack in order to afford the buy-in. Now, as has been stated on previous threads, those who play the Mammoth have, through whatever means, EARNED their chips to play in that tournament... and play in that tournament is GENERALLY at a much higher quality, though recently, one might suggest otherwise! But I'd be in favor of higher (guaranteed) payouts on the daily, so long as they weren't exorbitant... I firmly believe that one has to EARN their way into the weekly Mammoth (my two pennies worth).

Cheers!

[yeoman42]

yes Jim everyone should earn the chips to afford to get into mammoth and i do not think winning or placing in one tourney should not allow you this,but winning 2/3 or placing 5/6 should this way i,d hope you was guaranteed a genuine tourney player,something i,m sure you know needs to be done to improve numbers,it was just over a year or so ago i remember 80/90 or even100+ players in bc and all are down so who ever has the power to change this even if it is for a trial period,i think it would be a good idea.

[stevo_58]

I totally agree with you guys that the payout is too low, and increasing it might help. That should be the first thing to try. However, this has been suggested before, so I was trying to think of an alternative. Having said that I agree that my suggestion isnt the way to go. As people have suggested, the standard of play could suffer as a result. Thanks for the input all.

[TheTexan]

Thanks for all the suggestions but here is the rub, as was pointed out in another thread, there are so many places that are giving away the play chips that they become worthless. Yes, we could increase the payouts, and payout deeper into the registration, but then how does that discourage "bingo" play? If there are 10 registrants and we pay out the top 5 with a minimum of a double up, doesn't that make it worthwhile to go all in and hope to get lucky?

If we raise the payouts but put a minimum number of players to make the game payouts worthwhile for good players and they always get canceled how does that help?

The higher level tournaments were created at a time when the KOTH table in the ring games was producing multi-millionaires on a nightly basis.

I personally would love to see more involvement from solid players in the private label tournaments, but I also agree that spending two + hours to get kicked in fourth stinks when it happens to you.

Not sure of the right answer, or if the right answer changes as the on-line poker world evolves and attracts more people who are just interested in the cheap rush of winning an all in all the time game.

Any suggestion on how to make these more attractive, without producing a worse level of play is ALWAYS appreciated and even if you do not think so, they are submitted to Lava for consideration.

[stevo_58]

You raise some good points Texan. Thanks for letting us know that Lava is still involved and that suggestions are submitted.

[jayccin]

for the life of me i cant see why this site is even here!!!

no ads, no money to be made, everyone working here is doing it for free, how is this site maintained??? wheres the money.

im happy just to be here!!!

the only way i can figure why this chat room is here or the free tables are here is because the real money people need a place to practice and have a few laughs.

maybe im wrong and somewhere hidden around is something that i dont see.