Invite tourneys : CONSIDERING IMPOSING 24 HR BANS

[M_80]

No disrespect taken breezy. I know how it works and I have never crashed a touney yet. I was just pointing out that it is confusing to many and partly the fault of the system so a ban is not deserved. Also too much focus on private tourneys and not enough on including everyone.

[T_B_H]

yes there are 2 sides too this argument, which is good for dedate


1)theres those who book invite tables with the intension of only having those invited to join,quite often its a tournament and having gatecrahes causes problems, even if they end up posting and folding.

obviously those seated in a position 1 or 2 seats away from these have an advantage from position.

2)then theres the side that says invites are "open" to all. well yes they are "UNLESS THERE BOOKED" on the calender, then there "PRIVITE" invite tourneys, and should only be enterered if invited.

ulti (ultimodragon) has bought up the point that he,and others were unable to open the calender to check if booked or not, seems blacklava now has a fix for this, so if anyone has the same problem it should now be able to be sorted.

dads (daddyspoon) also bought up a valuid point that those on flash who register, do not have the ability to unregister before the tournament starts, if they register in error, which i hope will be addressed by the tech team as they continue to enhance the "flash" version.

if this thread has helped enhance the fact that "invite" tournaments are for those invited only then thats good, we dont really want to go down the road of having to ban players who join when not invited.

but if it comes to it and its the best solution to solve the problem we will have to

[missy_cilia]

Originally Posted by telboy

i think the problem is that the invite table has been used as just another tourny,and alot of players log in and see theres a game on and just join in
some dont even get to the forum to check calender,there is always going to be mistakes but the chance of missing your poker for not checking might just wake some players up

i agree but sometimes its free when theres a tourny i dont know. i get the password from someone and i play this site long only asking when you have a tourny what is not invite than i mean international or national tell me i dont wanna bugg .Let me know.i stay out of it but igess its only uk aussie ore usa i am dutch its in europe explain it to me make a pass word for specialian events so invite can stay greets from holland

[Breezy064]

Originally Posted by M_80

No disrespect taken breezy. I know how it works and I have never crashed a touney yet. I was just pointing out that it is confusing to many and partly the fault of the system so a ban is not deserved. Also too much focus on private tourneys and not enough on including everyone.

I don't get what you are saying. There are plenty of tourneys open to everyone (NY, BC, Wombats, Hetmans, Mammoth, Ultras, freerolls, etc..)

Only a few private ones, and I don't understand what is so confusing about Invitational. The name spells it out.

[Breezy064]

Originally Posted by missy_cilia

i agree but sometimes its free when theres a tourny i dont know. i get the password from someone and i play this site long only asking when you have a tourny what is not invite than i mean international or national tell me i dont wanna bugg .Let me know.i stay out of it but igess its only uk aussie ore usa i am dutch its in europe explain it to me make a pass word for specialian events so invite can stay greets from holland

We can't get individual passwords for each game, that is the issue. And mostly the Invitational tables are used only for special events


The Invitationals are never free, but you do need to please check the calendar or ask someone before signing up.

As far as the International tourney, it's all over the forum. You can create a team from your own country and are more than welcome then to join it. But you must post your team in the thread first.

[stjimmy]

i agree with the 24 hour ban idea, it may be enough just to make everyone aware of using the callander. and if you do register by mistake, BIG DEAL!! see you in a couple of days. you won`t do it again. job done...

[jimmysymtex]

Originally Posted by M_80

I disagree with any kind of ban. The problem is in the way the system of private tourneys is set up, it is not the fault of the player. For a private tourney provide a private password. Don't include the private tourneys in the list of touneys. Have a separate "private" tab to list such games.

The way things are set up it is confusing to those of us who have been around for a long time. Imagine what it is like for new people. We should be welcoming and encouraging new players on this site and trying our best to make them feel included. Instead, it seems we spend more time on this site trying to exclude people. I quit playing any invites for that reason.

Don't get me wrong, I am not upset with anyone. I think private tourneys are fine. I just think we should spend more of our time including rather than excluding, and stop making problems of the site the players problem. Lets figure out how to improve the site rather than punishing those who make mistakes or don't exactly fit into our definition of "how things should be".

Just my opinion ..................... over and out.

M80,The whole idea with the International series was to try and get as many people involved as possible...No one is excluded from this tourny new players or old players alike...I personally have sent many PMs to players inviting them to join this series...Its well documented on the original thread that everyone is welcome to play...The only thing players have to do is get a team together and post it on the forum...If anyone is interested in playing in next months Series and dont have a team,you can PM me and Ill get a team for you....Fred913 is looking to put a team together so you could also PM him.....The main problem with uninvited players is in my view the table getting split...........

[daddyspoon]

jimmy reguardless of how open to people the international is you will exclude people, most on this site are english. i for one saw the first thread late and felt the positions were already filled. mistakes happen you will notice the mistakes more if it affects you. i agree bans should happen but only if everythin else has been tried and seprate passwords and tourney names should be tried first

[sa11y69]

Originally Posted by daddyspoon

but only if everythin else has been tried and seprate passwords and tourney names should be tried first

EVERYTHING else has been tried, the ban is only 24 hours...and it probably will only be a table ban and not from the forum???

theres no other way to get this issue addressed, Lava is considering this coz he cant do anything else set-up-wise or password-wise.

i'd like to know why people join an invite tourney when they are not invited anyway...if anyone duz this, can you please explain why? they are private rooms so that people can book private games and invite their friends...sort of like a private party...wud you go into a private party without an invite?

[daddyspoon]

i didnt know where the calender was till it all kicked off the first time, the open invites dont help if people see a few people there then they join i guess. maybe if there was no open invites and it only appeared when book might help too.

[jimmysymtex]

Dads,when we were trying to find our feet with this tourny,it was decided to limit each country with Two teams.If would have been no problem for countries like England and the USA to field Four or Five teams but countries like Wales couldnt even field One.Particularly in the First series we had English players playing for Canada ETC and that is great...We also ended up with the Tigers team who are a mixure of nationalities..If any English player dont mind playing for a country other then their country of birth,then they can be accomodated...British isles players can choose Wales or Northern Ireland....North American players that are interested can play for Canada...In fact any player can play for any country........

[sa11y69]

whats an open invite?? did i miss something? ohh like lfcfan's monday blues thing? which is basically lfcfan booking the invite table....its his room at that time to invite anyone he chooses, and he chooses to invite everyone

[daddyspoon]

a open invite is when no one books it. there for not a problem if people join. also another reason why the password is so well known

[sa11y69]

Originally Posted by daddyspoon

a open invite is when no one books it. there for not a problem if people join. also another reason why the password is so well known

ohh i guess this is where the confusion comes in. thats not an open invite table...its an unreserved invite table.
so people think that coz its not booked that they're ok to go in? maybe thats how they have become due to newcomers not understanding, but it certainly isnt why they are there. these tables were specifically given to us to have private games with our own chosen few...no other reason...if the table is not booked then players are supposed to reserve it, they're not supposed to just register, thats basically turning it into a sitngo table with a password...so now, due to this lapse in understanding from the newcomers, who think that an unbooked invite table is a free-for-all (which they are not btw) we have all these problems when someone wants a private game on the invite table...great

[yeoman42]

is the password the same for all the invite tables,even the open/private invites,ca,nt different passwords be issued to private tourneys held on a regular basis so one for the inters,orig and dirtygirls etc,a barrier needs to be set up, not bans i think that is to extreme

[daddyspoon]

im sure iv seen it somewhere that if its not booked its open. which was why im saying if its not booked it souldnt show

[sa11y69]

Originally Posted by yeoman42

is the password the same for all the invite tables,even the open/private invites,ca,nt different passwords be issued to private tourneys held on a regular basis so one for the inters,orig and dirtygirls etc,a barrier needs to be set up, not bans i think that is to extreme

the password is programmed. if the password changes for a tourney set up at 9pm on a monday, it will automatically change for the same time on a tuesday etc, so its pointless changing it coz then we'll still have the same probs
it was changed for the STL etc coz they are at a set time each week. the international has to be run over 5 days, its the only way it can work, so the password would need to just operate over the 5 days then revert back to normal, too much fiddling about i guess

[stjimmy]

Originally Posted by daddyspoon

im sure iv seen it somewhere that if its not booked its open. which was why im saying if its not booked it souldnt show

yes, if it is not booked on the callander, you are free to join the tourney

[sa11y69]

Originally Posted by daddyspoon

im sure iv seen it somewhere that if its not booked its open. which was why im saying if its not booked it souldnt show

in general, yes you are right hun...and there isnt really a problem about people going in the invites when ever they feel like it. but when needed, these rooms should be used for the purpose they were created, and the rules should be observed. at the end of the day, people are having a go about being asked to sit out when they shouldnt be in there in the first place

[Tb1rd]

I'm in agreement to it. Not gunna get into the rest of this business though.

Although I think unless it's booked no one should enter it, saves confusion.