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Old 05-08-2011
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Hi only me with a fuw obsavations and Questions ......

firstly is Lava still about or are any of the mods in contact with him ?? the reson i ask is if the anser to this is no then i gess there is no point asking what im about to ask as there would be no way of for it to be impemented .

Now on to the point of this thread .. its been more and more notesable over the last 6 to 8 mounths that we have a seruse shourtage of players ( please dont come back and say that our meber numbers are higher than ever as i know this may be true but this number will only ever go up as old players arnt deleated)
what im on about is the amount of Reguler players just think at one point we would have between 110 and 200 players for each of the 4 dayly op tornament and 15 to 20 sit and gose runing at any one time on the site.
wheres now we are lucky to get 20 to 30 players foe most op tornys and 0 to 1 sit and gose being played .

I belive we must be at the moment close to our lowest ever number of regula players and think the number has been falling gragaly over time ever since we had to leave the origanal skriped that op66 was set up on duw to the facked it couldent with stand the amount of players so i gess what im asking is.

Would it be posable to move the site back to that origanal set up ??

even if only for a serten amount of time to atempt to rebiled the number of players to somewhere near what we had as at the moment with out the control over the tables and players that we (lava and the mods) had back then the site dose seem to be sufering and this would seem to be a way of boosting the players as if that set up worked so well once it makes sence to belive it could work againg ??????

any way like i said at the start this is just a fuw obsavations from a old time player so please ignor this if you must but as a player that cairs about the site and its futuer i wanted to at least put this thought out there .


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Old 05-08-2011
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Roo, I havent been on much in the past year, it seems there has been a big number of players that have moved on. Yes Im with you about the move back to the original script, like you said, it worked then and it would be a great way to rebuild the number of players on op66. About if Lava is still around I relay don't have any idea since I have only played a small amount of games in the past year.
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im with you roo.
i did ask the same question about a year ago,will see if i can find it
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yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy for the 1st script again...if we can that is!, would be awesome to get OP back to how it was.
Let me know tho cos i'd have to go on a diet to get back into 'that lil red dress again!!! lmao
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Good idea mate and I reckon it would be good. I bet the answer is no though.
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how would moving to a smaller site improve numbers?. we have enough players posting right now to fill a sit n go but i bet not one of us are sat waiting
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very good idea Roo mate.
DS, i accept your point that we do have enough regular players posting to fill one sit and go as true,and people, including me have not being filling them.

did you ever think why? on the original script there was always a couple of sit and go's going at one time. they were class and we all played for enjoyment, not for LPs or tourney points. This is probably the main reasons why they are not filling now.

In general, back to Roo, it is a great idea, but I sadly think it wont happen. You will remember the huge debate before going to everleaf mate, and the strife between friends. If lava pushed it through after all this, i cant see him (If he is still conencted to the site) reverting

there are many benefits we would achieve through reverting, and it would have the added attraction of possibly bring back players who have left as a result of the changeover.

This was a time when multi table tourneys were really multi table, sometimes reaching triple the average entrants in tourneys now.

I dont belittle the achievements players have made, and still believe winning a tourney is a massive achievement. However, in some ways the longer tourneys were more challenging. I am convinced the same players who keep winning here, like mel, sandy, yeo and tic et all would still reach the top regulary.

was sidetracked, sorry. Anyway, the pre everleaf period was much more enjoyable in some ways, and as far as i remember you could not avail of an unlimited number of rebuys.

if this was brought back in the level of bingo will fall, which will encourage people to stay more.

Everleaf is an absolute joke, and other than our community, the average player is rubbish. I think jayccin is a good player, byut look at how much they got from heads up 5/10, 25/50 tables, 1m?

things will never go back to the original script, because Guy has too much invested. There was a time when he was active on the forum, and even managed the odd game on the tables. Being on our own network also gave the mods so much more control and freedom, and things ran smoothly.

I honestly believe the original script would attract more players, as we could curb or limit certain habits like constant all ins. another reason it would be benefical is the simple fact that if we were alone, new players would see the same faces, and become part of the group.

now it is too anonymous. Just imagine the potential we could draw to OP66, just look at the players who have came in since everleaf, and envisage how many more would join if we had control of the tables we play, and mods who could keep things fluid and harmonised(we have those mods)

The reality is that now our mods only have control over our forum, and although they do it well, they should have control over the poker tables, as we all nkow they can do


i remember a recent issue that Kev decided to look into for the site, and he had to go through the same process with everleaf as normal players do.
That sucks, our mods should be shown more respect. You have dopne so much Kev mate, and shouldnt have to wait for answers
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People don't play the sit 'n goes because there isn't the premium that there used to be on the old site. Anyone who doesn't know what I am referring to, for example the buyin may have been 10k per player ( 10 players - 100k ), but the pot would be around 150k.

That premium was there because there was the 5% on your bankroll and that can't happen on this site.

If our players were really that keen on s'n'g purely for the enjoyment of playing them, they would still be filling up. I remember the script change and the s'n'g's died instantly and that was due solely to that payout premium disappearing, people didn't see them as a good way to win chips any more.

The truth is, most players are more interested in building their bankroll and the way to do that is through the ring tables.
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All of yous have good ideas just shows op66 has came a long way but going back to your roots love to but cant see it would be great if us mods had the power we started off with but thats poker for you .
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yea im all for mods getting more power, wouldnt that be wonderful.
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heres the link to same question.
just a suggestion
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...interesting. i guess its finally sinking in.did the light come on?
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People don't play the sit 'n goes because there isn't the premium that there used to be on the old site. Anyone who doesn't know what I am referring to, for example the buyin may have been 10k per player ( 10 players - 100k ), but the pot would be around 150k.

That premium was there because there was the 5% on your bankroll and that can't happen on this site.

If our players were really that keen on s'n'g purely for the enjoyment of playing them, they would still be filling up. I remember the script change and the s'n'g's died instantly and that was due solely to that payout premium disappearing, people didn't see them as a good way to win chips any more.

The truth is, most players are more interested in building their bankroll and the way to do that is through the ring tables.


i agree with most of what you say except one thing on the old lobby you could see who was on the table in advance the instant recognition of whos on the table was great and brought in all your friends without hassle
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people should look at the last page of the tech forum and work back looking at the amount of problems that site had on a daily basis. compare it to now and we are better off.
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i have one question....if the old script was working so well as it seems it had been y switch in the first place?
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i have one question....if the old script was working so well as it seems it had been y switch in the first place?



we had major lag problems on it m8
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Sorry but the bugs on the 1st script were horrible, that's why we had to change. I played a site inbetween the 2nd and current script, which used program/graphics from 1st script, it was shite compared to what we use here now. anyways, lava was last here about 5 months ago, last time he gave a toss about this place was well over a year ago.
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people should look at the last page of the tech forum and work back looking at the amount of problems that site had on a daily basis. compare it to now and we are better off.
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we had major lag problems on it m8
i fully exsept why we left the 1st skriped but thats kind of my point yes we had a lot of lag/frezzing BUT this was corsed by the amunt of players we had meaning the 1st set up could no longer cope so we had to move on . Wherse now we have MANY MANY MANY less players when we left the 1st skriped we hade ruffly 4 to 5 hundred players on 24/7 spread over the tables wheres now we have mayby only 80ish op players at any given time so wouldent it make sence to reter to a proven set up that incresed site trafic befor and see if it could help aging.
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p.s like i said its all kind of redundent if lava has ####ed o#f and no one has contacet
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