Official Poll : Vote for our future!

[BlackLava]

Hi all,

as promised here is the final poll after one week testing the new script. To keep things clear I will write a fair message here and close that thread : It's only a poll!

At first I would like to thank you for suffering the change, even players who now like the new setup have been hurted... That make sense and I have no problem with all the complains on forum

Afterward I would like to come back on the real situation just before the change : We were having awfull lags and many small bugs on tables, those are hard to fix because I haven't got full access to all the script engine, customizations are limited for the same reason. But yes, outside lags, crashes and bugs, what we had was far better for the community feeling than the actual new version, that's the point here : Please vote for our future and not for what you are seeing, there will be tons of new stuff no matter the choice but on the long run we have far more possibilities going with new script!
The other point was bandwitch usage, old script is using much more bandwitch and that means an expensive cost which for now still be higher than money generated...
It's a good transition to come to the money factor : Yes the site was costing only a few monthly bucks in september 2007 when we were 15 on tables only but it's a totally different world now! I agree the new script offer a proximity with real money tables that won't please many but that means too a way to handle the costs : Coming back to old script will cost more and remove that good way to handle the site cost, it will certainly force us to add tons of advertizings and links to the real money zone anyway. Outside the script cost, a poker site can possibly generate more money on the long run but nothing here is going to be a money machine : Our system is and will be a community of poker players at first, we vote for a free and friendly poker for life it's just that nothing is really free.

What will come on new script?
- Player search system : Find if someone is playing and on which table.
- "Where are my friends" system : Create a friend list and instantly see after login if they are on and where!
- Turbo & Ultra turbo mini-tourneys (tuesday)
- Customized pictures avatars : Upload a pic and use it on table.
- All-in table : a table where you can only go all-in.
- Poker lesson table : For Bazultras lesson but for new teachers too.
- Multi-window for multitable play (actually tabbed)
- Players from same IP will be able to enter same tournaments
- on/off hand indicator : the script will inform you about your actual hand
- waiting list on tables
- Tournaments toplists & other toplists coming (tuesday), medals and points will be transferred from your old accounts.
- Features for our moderation team will come : Access to chips amount of any player, adding/removing chips and mute feature will come first.
- graphical changes will come in time based on your ideas
- script is opened for any new idea!

Can all of that be coded on old script?
Yes and no, a big part could be coded yes, you can vote "go back to old script" and there will still be a lot of new stuff but I'll have to fix all lags at first, that's why we can't see tons of new ideas as fast as here. Technically the old script will cost one licence per machine, if we find a good way to make money using old script we will be able to add some scalability but it will never be as easy and effective than on the new script : 2 times more traffic will force us to change the script, that's a sure thing! New script is created for scalability, no special limit there...

Now it's your time to voice your point through the vote :
"Go back to the old script"
"Go to a new, highly reformed one"
Poll is public (players can see who voted and for what), and it will be opened for at least one day (depends of the volume of voters)!

It was one week with a few issues, not saying the new script is perfect, but it offers scalability and more features on the long run : Trust the future or trust our beloved old system?

(Anyway we will have some new bollywood videos from Future2112 don't worry Here Is The Truth... Part 2 )

'Lava

[BlackLava]

Hmm ok seems I can't close the thread without closing the poll too...
So it's an open thread

I will delete posts here : nothing else than players asking for additional details that aren't elsewhere on forum will be accepted!

[ilovekerry]

feel free to delete this but wot happens if members from other sites hav joined the forum and r voting??

[Ausangel]

If they have joined the forum they have then become part of OP66 poker and forum..that is no different to before, we cannot close the forum to new members because they have joined in the last week. Many people who play on the money side are also members of this forum too.

[ilovekerry]

Originally Posted by Ausangel

If they have joined the forum they have then become part of OP66 poker and forum..that is no different to before, we cannot close the forum to new members because they have joined in the last week. Many people who play on the money side are also members of this forum too.

i knw tht as but i ment tht they would not hav played the old script so wouldnt b a fair vote

[FunkyG]

Originally Posted by shaunloveskerry

i knw tht as but i ment tht they would not hav played the old script so wouldnt b a fair vote

In my opinion it's not gona be a fair vote anyway, the vote is gona go overwhelmingly towards the old script because people don't like change, even if the change was tried to better the site.

Personally i like both scripts and at the end of the day, i'm still gona play poker on OP66 no matter what script is here.

[ilovekerry]

Originally Posted by FunkyG

In my opinion it's not gona be a fair vote anyway, the vote is gona go overwhelmingly towards the old script because people don't like change, even if the change was tried to better the site.

Personally i like both scripts and at the end of the day, i'm still gona play poker on OP66 no matter what script is here.

i hav to agree with u

the old script had loads o gr8 memorys but the new script is beter for the future as the vote is based and i still hav a gr8 laugh

[Ausangel]

Originally Posted by shaunloveskerry

i knw tht as but i ment tht they would not hav played the old script so wouldnt b a fair vote

Then they will probably not be bothered to vote..and the names are shown as it is a public vote

[jamie_u]

i agree with shaun good job i read posts i was gonna ask same thing they not played old

old would be better too any1 that likes new can still play there right so that means less people or would going to old mean that new server would vanish?

[meado205]

i do like the new script alot and it would be nice to keep the free side of that open aswell as run the old script the frends that all the members made on the old script was incredable and the fact that alot of hte players are under 18 it would be nice for the to play as well even thogh i dont agree with promoting gambaling to the under 18s but it is some thing for them to do and it is a good brain work out when youj think of it so meny outs to so frw hands it would be nice to see the old and new script run in harmany once again

[Ken_de_Ben]

lol close run i think grrrr lol

[jack5offsuitrulez]

i've gotta say, i did love the old script. its what got me into the site over so many others as my primary poker source. However, it seems senseless to go back to it. If so many changes can be made to make the new version like the old script anyway, why bother returning to a more expensive, less efficient system? Sure, the site isn't great at the moment for various and hotly debated reasons, but thats not to say it can't get better. If we vote to go back to the old script, we're not just opposing the new script, we're opposing the site's development.

[Ken_de_Ben]

Originally Posted by jack5offsuitrulez

i've gotta say, i did love the old script. its what got me into the site over so many others as my primary poker source. However, it seems senseless to go back to it. If so many changes can be made to make the new version like the old script anyway, why bother returning to a more expensive, less efficient system? Sure, the site isn't great at the moment for various and hotly debated reasons, but thats not to say it can't get better. If we vote to go back to the old script, we're not just opposing the new script, we're opposing the site's development.

no we not saying that we r just we like the old look better

[popeye44]

i was all in favour of the old script but after it was explained and very well to black lava i tend now to agree on the new system as soon as we get the harmony of the old site back with the fun and laughter the better so lets get this new system up and running a big thank you to u black for all ur hard work and for giving us all the chance of meeting so many good friends bless u all and thank you friends

[JediKnight]

Before I vote, I would like to ask a few Qs that'll determine how I vote.

*IF we go back to the old script, are we GUARANTEED that there WON'T come a time, (when more and more members join our lovely community), when the lag will make it impossible to play at the old site? Judging by how bad the lag was before the switch, and if the old script is already maxed out and is NOT expandable for additional servers (as stated in another thread by the software programmer), I shudder to think what will happen.. 20 minutes per hand, maybe??

I'm asking this coz judging by the initial vote, it's pretty obvious where this vote is heading. But I got a feeling that the very same people who have 'whined' so much in the forums, threatened to leave if we don't get the old site back, and is voting for the old site now, will be the very same people who will threaten to leave when that time comes, if nothing is done about the lag. People do have short memory...

Also, IF we do vote/go back to the old site, will we be able to add some of the great features of the new site?

- Shown folded cards,
- add funds (by clicking dealer's chips) w/o having to actually miss a hand/stand up,
- a muck-losing feature that actually works(!),
- add additional tables like the heads-up (I don't play these personally, but I know there are some of you who loves & play them a lot over at the new site.) and higher Omaha buy-in ring tables etc?

And when I say add the above features, I mean add the above WITHOUT adding to the already almost unplayable lag...

*I have read most of the threads but I can't seem to find a definitive answer to this.

Again I say, I love the old site, and would go back in a heartbeat. But, if by going over to the new site means a 'better tomorrow' without the clouds of uncertainty of lag coming back to haunt us, I am willing to take the plunge.

For those voting, please remember, we are voting for the FUTURE of OP66, not what you are seeing/experiencing at the present new site.

PS: Lava, is the voting reversible? Can someone change his mind/vote after it has been made?

peace,
JediKnight

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[magno]

I think that u Lava in the end have to take the decision without any pool,let me explain why..
Not because you must seem strong or because our votes r usless, no no... but because you sell (make) the product and only you can know wich is the best(technically speaking) and you pay for it.
We can vote for some features, give 2 u ideas and tell what we like or no, but if the main point is lag or bugs, i don't know if you can fix the problem with the old site, only you can know.i mean,i dont care to have an avatar and then play a fast t that folds u every hand,ok?
If we vote for the old, and then the site is umplayable what we gonna do?
I love the old site,it was amazing, i joined 5 months ago playing every day and i have a lot of friends here, but we have 2 b honest, it was almost umplayable the last days.
that's why the site wasn't growing up (we still played because the sense of our comunity was stronger than lag i suppose...but new people doesn't go to a site not working..) and there was a lot of ppl complaining.
Then you give to us the solution, the new site, with no bugs.....but with a cold atmosphere, but 1 week it's not a lot of time to create 1, and atmosphere is something than you can't just transfer like money i think..

sorry for the long post but this is my 1st about this story and sorry 4 my english if you don't understand something.

[jockney]

I voted for the new script on the proviso that the IP conflict will be sorted. I miss the feel of the old site but I don't miss the lag and the frustrations of not getting connected to the multi tourneys in time and getting bumped for missing the first 4 hands.

I'm confident in my mind that Lava has been honest with us, and to be fair he has always delivered in the past. I'm sure that in a week or two all the issues will be ironed out and the benefits of the new site will be seen by us all.

[jack5offsuitrulez]

Originally Posted by hman

no we not saying that we r just we like the old look better

Is the 'old look' the old script or the way the old script looked?

[Danzi]

Seriously i hate new script cause it is run from from lobby and need much improvments. It will never be friendly as old one. But as Lava said more coast and if we double amount players that will play on site we will have too change script. So change must be done and i ll vote for new script.

Think first and most important thing on new script need too be too give accses too our mods too ban ppl with bad language!!!

EDIT:
Why did you give us too decide if we will have too change scripts if amount of players double - this will happen amount of players will double soon, now faster cause players that left will come back, they talked about best free poker site(what you did on old script is amazing) with players on other sites so they will join too and site we merged some of their players will join so chances for old script too survive are big 0. So this poll should not exist!!!
People chose mind not heart.

[kingluke22]

my main concerns with the new script were that the medal system had been scrapped and players with the same IP can't play in the same big tourneys, both of which have been promised to return and if they do so i am happy with the new script