Bullets News : Read this

[Quagan]

IMPORTANT point : The cards still have same real money value, everything written here is about currency change!

- the cards trading system will be modified and you will be able to trade cards for bullets only
- you will be able to buy bullets with your FC

- there will be a multiplicator of the current value of a bullet to calculate
1) the number of bullets you will earn with your PP
2) the number of bullets earn by selling a boost
3) the price in FC of a bullet
4) the reword in bullets for an outlaws tournament

the indexed value will start with 2 000 000

and each of this 4 points will be update 1 time a day on the index calculated with the price of the bullets trade in the last 10 days

actual indice (09/11/2009) : 1 564 673 (calculated on the last 10 day)

some examples:
with an indice of 2 000 000
you will be able to buy 1 bullets with 2 000 000 FC

the number of bullets earn with your PP will be the same

you will earn 30 bullets if you finish first in an outlaws tournament
15 if you are second
10 if you are third

and you will earn 1 bullet if you sell 1 boost

if the indice go down (like 1 000 000)

you will be able to buy a bullet for 1 000 000 FC

you will earn 2 time the number of bullets indicated in the update bullets page

you will earn 60 bullets if you finish first in an outlaws tournament
30 if you are second
20 if you are third

and you will earn 2 bullets by selling 1 boost

with the actual indice :
you will be able to buy 1 bullets with 1 564 673 FC

the number of bullets earn with your PP will up to (2 000 000/1 564 673) so X1.28

you will earn 38 bullets if you finish first in an outlaws tournament (30X1.28) (rounded down)
19 if you are second (15X1.28) (rounded down)
12 if you are third (10X1.28) (rounded down)

and you will earn 1 bullet if you sell 1 boost (1X1.28) = 1 (rounded down)


BE CAREFULL : if we see some players tryng to sell bullets for a ridiculous price, in the idea of getting down indice , there will be concequences for them.

if you want now help a freind by selling him many bullets for only 10 cents you have to contact me in order to dont false the calcul of the indice.

so in less than a week you will be able to buy cards without spending real money

and the bullets trade will be growing up very fast cause it will be the only solution to get money from the trades.

[rolyoc]

right i have read this a few times and still dont think i understand

to sell the cards you sell them for bullets?
you buy bullets or sell bullets to get cash?
you can buy bullets with forum credits?

if this is right why should i remort when i'm earning 100,000 an hour from dealing dont see the advantage and the people who have loads of bullets just now will the profit from this?

[Quagan]

no, you understand right.

but maybe some players prefer level up than buy bullets for sell them

[Quagan]

OK you can now buy bullets for FC

go on the bullets factory and lets buy some bullets

[telboy]

sorry quagan just dont see the point of this it will cost me 1.5 mill to buy one bullet so to get a treasure hunter (50) bullets thats 75 million

[Quagan]

yes but the indice will go down

and actually you earn 1 bullets for 20 hours of deal
so in 20 hours X 100 000 (level 51) you will earn 2 000 000 fc
so you get 2 bullets each 20 hours

and actually you can sell a bullets for around 1.5 cents

so you earn 3 cents in 20 hours of work
(i know it's nothing but it coast you nothing too)

and if the indice go down you will be able to buy a treasur hunter for almost nothing no ?

[BlackLava]

Yes it's expensive for now but at least you can use the Forum's Credits... Many different ways to grab bullet but only one efficient one : Play on real money tables and especially the Outlaws Tournaments

[BlackLava]

I just want to add that if things look messy :
1) it's "only" a currency change
2) technically you can buy "real money" with your Forum's Credits but that won't change the math and kill the cards values because of the very bad convertions rates (even if bullets rates go down it will still ensure cards values in a good way)

[jOYa]

Ok, i have 1925 bullets, and saving them for bad days when i need
some money for play poker (1.10$ buy in for Outlaws tourney), and now
1925/7 * 0.10 = 27.5$ goin on wind.

[BlackLava]

Originally Posted by jOYa

Ok, i have 1925 bullets, and saving them for bad days when i need
some money for play poker (1.10$ buy in for Outlaws tourney), and now
1925/7 * 0.10 = 27.5$ goin on wind.

Why? I really don't see your point

It's only a currency change & You can still sell your bullets for real money!

Before :
- You can sell/buy cards for real money
- You can sell/buy bullets for real money

Now :
- You can sell/buy cards for bullets only
- You can sell/buy bullets for real money
= bullets will be the currency for auctions & direct trades that's all

The bullets offered against Forum's credits won't change anything, it was yet possible to grab bullets by selling your special boosts before, quite the same story it's just a very small amount offered for free...

[jOYa]

Originally Posted by BlackLava

Why? I really don't see your point

It's only a currency change & You can still sell your bullets for real money!

Before :
- You can sell/buy cards for real money
- You can sell/buy bullets for real money

Now :
- You can sell/buy cards for bullets only
- You can sell/buy bullets for real money
= bullets will be the currency for auctions & direct trades that's all

The bullets offered against Forum's credits won't change anything, it was yet possible to grab bullets by selling your special boosts before, quite the same story it's just a very small amount offered for free...

ok, maybe my post fast reaction on matter, we will see....
hope that you have wright, and i will can sell my bullets
for fair price when i will need money...

[BlackLava]

Bullets price could go up or down based on the amount of bullets available and the amount of players going to buy those, it's up to you to try to sell those at the good time but that was right even before the actual change

[telboy]

Originally Posted by BlackLava

Yes it's expensive for now but at least you can use the Forum's Credits... Many different ways to grab bullet but only one efficient one : Play on real money tables and especially the Outlaws Tournaments

thats my point i have played loads of tournys for my bullets and dont see the point of spending forum credits on them,same as cards when we started most of us spent alot of money on cards but they dont have no value know,not knocking it the game is still growing and some changes are needed,but those who started the game seem to be losing out,
btw it wont stop me playing the game

[white_wizard]

these bullets are they silver ones,i will be here till next xmas trying to buy one ps glad u are not in govenment lol

[pokerpus]

So now the cards I've spent REAL $ on ,,like the 3starK for $10.00 ,i now have to sell for bullets ,not cash,,then what if that happends,,i get to try to sell bullets??? this is SOOO bad !!!! ,,why would the next person wanna buy my bullets? if i do good in outlaws i win cards , (i used to be able to sell for cash) ,now why do good?to be able to win cards, i can sell for bullets ?? ..why have bullets to to good win cards and get more bullets,,SEE how this is a bad loop ???--this WILL riun what was a cool game ,,,,well after finding out i can deposit but, not withdrawl ,,its no big suprize !!! what happend to the OP66 i started playing here,,???,,
quagan..wanna buy my K3star ,i paid $10.00 for back ,,i need cash ,,not bullets ,that people dont buy bullets,they buy(useed to )buy cards..this game just got all the $$ value taken out of it,,,can i get a re-fund in cash for all my cards ????
i paid allta money for cards --thinkinking i can sell em' to get my money back,,,now all i can do is sell em for bullets(that people don't buy) and be a bullet seller now??? i bought those cards because i was told i can sell em for cash,,,READ the site opening page... ,this is ,,,,bad !! i 'm Soooo dissapointed in myself for beliving in things .

[BlackLava]

Read the whole thread you are just saying the same than others and we've replied! Bullets=money, try to sell a few bullets and you will understand there is no change... There will be much more bullets buyers because they need those to buy cards.

(By the way the fact you can sell cards for bullets is a way to make the price cards go up too : No more $20 limitation)

[pokerpus]

Originally Posted by BlackLava

Read the whole thread you are just saying the same than others and we've replied! Bullets=money, try to sell a few bullets and you will understand there is no change... There will be much more bullets buyers because they need those to buy cards.

(By the way the fact you can sell cards for bullets is a way to make the price cards go up too : No more $20 limitation)

i fully understand ,,and HAVe sold bullets..its not easy to do !!! selling cards for cash ,is the appeal of the game,,now its two steps,,and thats if people are even buying bullets as easy as they are to get..all of which doesn't address that a card i paid $10.00 about 2 weeks ago id have to find some with enough bullts to buy it,,then re-sell the bullets,,if i knew at sompoint the WHOLE stucture of card value would change ,,i wouldnt of been buy cards as a wasy to have a bank account,,now i'll have a bullet account,,and hope the value is even close,,WHY no warning this was coming??sell cards for cash ,,was always the big draw to the game ,,and advertized,,,,Hmmm.

[Quagan]

just to be clear

actually there is not many trade of bullets because :

the bullets is only used to buy boost in the poker shop


but now

as you will be able to sell cards for bullets,
player will have to buy bullets if they want buy cards

and actually with the direct $ to cards trade there was a problem

you can sell card betwen 0.10 cents to 20$
so there is a scall of 200 to sold cards that have a very bigger value

for exemple

an ace 3 star can be sold maximum 20 $
an a 2 without star is sold for 10 cents

and there is many many zero star cards and only 1 ace 3 star

so you see the point ? you will be able to sell cards for million of bullets maybe

and in this way the cards trade will be growing fast i think

for those who want sell cards it will be more easy to sell card (because actually there is no one who want to buy a zero star card for 10 cents because one stars cards coast the same price)

and for those who want buy cards to make some convertion , it will be cheaper

and the way of buy bullets for FC is one thing you can use to give cards to a friend who start the game and have no money.

you give to him around 3 000 000 FC, he buy 2 bullets, and you trade 2 cards to him with the 2 bullets,

lets just see the cards trade start to have a better idea of the positif and negatif

[BlackLava]

There are many reasons why we modified the setup :
- It will allow people sell their 0 & 1 starred cards again
- It will focus more new players on cards trades
- It will remove the $20 max limit per card
- It will faster the game (there was a 2-3 seconds delay when validating a trade, it will be instant)

Beside that I see the stories coming : People who bought cards through the past months will complain and say the value has go down due to the new setup... It is wrong, everyone is aware card values were going down since the beginning and only way to higher their cost will be to focus more new players on buying cards : The actual change is going that way as the tutorials and all upcoming adds, if we do not build new stuff -even if there will be complains- the game will die one day or another.

[roo27]

the only thing i worry about is wont this force the price of bullets down so low that the amonut of bullets won from placeing in a outlaw torny will drop very low as the 2 will now be linked and this could stop some from playing them