About highest play money ring games

[BlackLava]

Hi,

ok discussed the high limit tables issues again with techs and here is the plan :

Max buyin over network is 100k in order to avoid reaching the 21 millions chips issue on tables & bankrolls, in goal to fix the problem about bankroll we have created legend points so you won't be limited there but the table issue still here so after negociating that point they agreed to higher the limit up to 300k only which will be applied through the next 30 days.
Glitches around have been fixed but the remaining problem is really about the 21 millions limit.

A 300k max buyin table can't work with a 15k/30k sb/bb so we will have to start with a 2500/5000 table only (which is yet below 100bb starting stack).

Summary : Through the next 30 days we will have a 6 seaters 2500/5000 table with 300k max buyin and a 10 seaters with same setup. We can add any others below with any desired setup (ultra turbo ring games... heads up, all-in tables...) but can't go higher about buyin.
Afterward through the next months only we could have back highest limits but it needs a deep server modification and can be planned only if our site is growing in right way.

Please notice we have a 1 million buyin SNG, I know ring games players want ring games but worth specifying that again here

Now I'm ready to read the moanings

'Lava

[loveschips]

Thanks for getting at least that lava but grrrr hope in future we can have the ones like Koth we used to have. Thats my moan but it is a start lol.

[BlackLava]

If you want my personal point of vue : I think players who focus on how many millions is the buyin forgot the main goal which is to create the best challenge for players (in terms of quality of play, fun & competition).
Yes having super high limits could go that way but take time to think about it... Through the past months I've read bingo stories even with 10 millions at the tables

[theguvnor]

Lava,
i think bringing in 6 seater tables is a good move, i for one haven't played too much as i'm not a lover of 10 seaters and neither are many people i have spoken to Its nice to play on a site where peoples suggestions and ideas are taken on board,long live op66

[Hondr]

Originally Posted by BlackLava

If you want my personal point of vue : I think players who focus on how many millions is the buyin forgot the main goal which is to create the best challenge for players (in terms of quality of play, fun & competition).
Yes having super high limits could go that way but take time to think about it... Through the past months I've read bingo stories even with 10 millions at the tables

its not the focus on how much it is to 'buy-in' it's more a case of thats where i like to play... on that other site we had the high roller tables.... sometimes it was bingo... but mostly it was a good game with friends...

i still cant quite get past this issue of a max bankroll... 21 million... whats that about? and if we are going to be able to convert our chips into LP's then i cant see an issue with having high roller tables again.. get near to 20 million, convert 10 million... SIMPLES!

the best challenge is to progress up on the leaderboards... if thats what said people would like to do... however it seems to me that the currrent LP toplist as it is will not change from one month to the next as it is going to take forever to make enough chips to convert on the 2500/5000 tables...

i currently have 17 LP's which is 30 less than the current leader... there is NO WAY i am ever going to be able to make a real challenge on Cherrypie's lead using 2500/5000 tables and yes i could (and do almost every day) play the sng's... but i prefer the ring tables and want 'High Roller' tables back...

The fact that there is already one 15000/30000k table in the list (which has NEVER worked) and now your sayin 'we cant have it' is (excuse my french ) CRAP!

seems to me whoever designed the network never for a second thought anybody could actually play poker well enough to accumulate more than 21,000,000 chips... did they just make a number up and think 'that'll do'?

[T_B_H]

Originally Posted by Hondr

seems to me whoever designed the network never for a second thought anybody could actually play poker well enough to accumulate more than 21,000,000 chips... did they just make a number up and think 'that'll do'?

before we joined the network, the highest tables were 250/500 blinds,so 21 mill was obviously plenty high enough then

[BlackLava]

The script has been coded to handle real money tables at first, there a 21 millions limit was far enough and when they aimed for play money it was yet too late to modify it, it's not a simple value they could change at anytime but a deep revamp of the code which would be needed (I've discussed enough time with techs through the past days about that matter to trust them on that point).
Just vote for 1 millions per LP in the other thread if you think the major issue is having an unreachable toplist.

I know it's messy and I haven't been informed of those limits before but that's now something we have to deal with.

[Hondr]

Originally Posted by T_B_H

before we joined the network, the highest tables were 250/500 blinds,so 21 mill was obviously plenty high enough then

were not talking about 'then'.... this is NOW!

[Hondr]

Originally Posted by BlackLava

The script has been coded to handle real money tables at first, there a 21 millions limit was far enough and when they aimed for play money it was yet too late to modify it, it's not a simple value they could change at anytime but a deep revamp of the code which would be needed (I've discussed enough time with techs through the past days about that matter to trust them on that point).
Just vote for 1 millions per LP in the other thread if you think the major issue is having an unreachable toplist.

I know it's messy and I haven't been informed of those limits before but that's now something we have to deal with.

but i still dont get it... if we can convert chips into LP's (to work around this issue) then whats the issue with having 'High Roller' tables?

When u get to say 20 mil... convert 10.... carry on!

[Shrooms]

quite right H,plus the way it is there is no competition any more,so i think every one would of been better off starting from ZERO play/practice chips that way it would bring back the competition.as whats the point in ppl sittin with millions and they cant really play with them the way ppl want to.

[BlackLava]

The issue is about having 21 millions at the table OR having a sum bankroll+chips on tables higher than 21 millions and banking.
Those 2 situations trigger a bug : I've asked for 1 million max buyin but network techs think 300k would be the max to kill all risks & ensure a much safer play.

[Hondr]

ok could u not have a warning 'popup' when they reach say 15 million? asking them to convert?

[Shrooms]

no we need a warning buzzer b4 me time keeps running out and miss me go AGAIN lol,costs me a fortune in ante`s...

[BlackLava]

Can't be enough, and can't be coded for now anyway... A 10 players table could create a 10 millions pot too often if we go higher than 300k buyin, that's the network point of vue. Mine would be we could hit 1 million max buyin and suffer a crash only once a month or so (Chips & bankroll would be reseted for the player and others will see -1 as stack, could be fixed by a manual work each time but aiming for planned bugs needing manual work isn't a very smart setup...)

[ARSENALRULES]

Originally Posted by BlackLava

If you want my personal point of vue : I think players who focus on how many millions is the buyin forgot the main goal which is to create the best challenge for players (in terms of quality of play, fun & competition).
Yes having super high limits could go that way but take time to think about it... Through the past months I've read bingo stories even with 10 millions at the tables

I agree I had 60 million plus but did it improve my game ..NO made me get involved in big calls and raises.........tables got crazy players calling with anything WAS GOOD FUN THOUGH. I was probably one of the worst offenders making pots a few million at a time..

I don't think free chips ring tables improve your game on cahs ring tables. However tourneys and sit and goes can help you on the moneyside now

[FunkyG]

Originally Posted by Shrooms

no we need a warning buzzer b4 me time keeps running out and miss me go AGAIN lol,costs me a fortune in ante`s...

If you go into options, then into all options, you can have just alert sounds on and that gives a count down noise.

[Hondr]

ok, i'm no computer programmer.. however i have made the odd website or 2.. and whenever i needed to change anything, i would just wright the new page's and upload them where required... surely the max bankroll issue is a line of code somewhere in the script... y cant you just add a few 000's to the end of it and upload the new code?

[Shrooms]

Originally Posted by FunkyG

If you go into options, then into all options, you can have just alert sounds on and that gives a count down noise.

agh right ty m8,all these times i have missed my go lol...

[BlackLava]

Originally Posted by Hondr

ok, i'm no computer programmer.. however i have made the odd website or 2.. and whenever i needed to change anything, i would just wright the new page's and upload them where required... surely the max bankroll issue is a line of code somewhere in the script... y cant you just add a few 000's to the end of it and upload the new code?

If it was that easy it would have been done, the point is it is really much more complex than that.

[Hondr]

well if that is the case then... is there any point in the toplists? i wont bother to try and progress anywhere... there is NO competition anymore... and if the 15000/30000k table is a no no... could u remove it... and also give me a reload to 1000000 chips button that i can use every day weather i win or loose so i am in no fear of crashing anything... i dont need my LP's anymore so u may as well take them away too... i'll just play everyday with one million chips... and see how i get on.... if i turn a mil chips int 2 one day... i could just try and beat that score the next