All ins and tourney stratagy

[BBOB]

Ive noticed alot of people betting with nothing when one player is all in and 2 others are in side pot. This is not good tourney stratagy in my view and most pros from what Ive seen and read. I mean what do you have to gain if u bet w nothing and your opponent folds a pair you win no more money and the all in player will probably double up. In this situation the best thing for the 2 live players to do is check it down unless you have the nuts or atleast top pair although most pros will not bet in this situation unless absolutley sure of the best hand. This way you are more likely to knock out the all in player and anytime you can knock out a player in tourney it could mean the difference in cashing or making final table. Time and time again i try to explain this to players who bet with nothing in this situation but they dont understand and think im mad because they force me to fold a pair. No im mad because by betting you made no more money and did nothing but double up a player that I had on the ropes or someone else had on the ropes. This is an opinion but its the opinion of most pros and almost every tourney stratagy or poker book you see. Heres to alot of great poker. I hope to see you at tables soon!!!! Have a blessed day

[CherryPie]

Yes i agree xD
......... but one strategy i like to use in that situation (ona ring table not really on tourny table) is just put in min/small bets on flop & turn if i am convinced that i can get other play to fold leftover pot to me by betting the river... it works and i can break even in the hand or maybe make small profit

[ch3ckraise24]

cash games are a TOTALLY different atmosphere than tourneys. Tom "Durrr" Dwan has made several million on cash tables, yet he has zero WSOP bracelets, only a few cashes and a couple final tables. you decide.

[Trimmer76]

I agree that in tourney play, unless a player knows he/she has the nuts, they shouldnt bet into a side pot to bluff the other player off the pot. This eliminates the chance that the bluffed player may have had the beter hand to eliminate the All in player. In tourney play it is the amount of players remianing, not the amount in the pot that will win you chips or the overall win. So remember to make every decision in Tourney play towards eliminating one more potential threat.

[BBOB]

Yes but traditionaly cash game players hated tourneys because they are so volitale. At one time cash games where a place for more conservative players in that the blinds dont usually go up in cash game and u can wait on hand and you arent obligated to put your money in on a coin flip situation as u sometimes have to in tourneys. Players like Dwan bring a tourney style to cash games and this can be very effective against traditionaly
tight cash game players. What makes Dwan and others so dangerous is that they read players well and seem to know when to quit bluffin and fold. Most ultra aggressive players do very poorly in cash games if they dont know when to fold. In a cash game every 1 is looking for a hand to trap such a player. I have no doubt Dwan will win a braclet due to his agressive style and great reading ability.

[Mahx]

Yeah good luck though, i've seen the likewise.

[BAZULTRA]

BBOB is 100% right on this. I don't understand players betting into a pot with nothing when other players are allin. Its whats known as a dead pot and is absolutely pointless getting involved in unless you actually do have a hand.

Baz

[unclepony11]

I agree, there nothing more frustrating than when another player bets with nothing and you may not be confident enough your hand is gonna win only to see that he was "bluffing" and the all-in player doubles up when your hand would have knocked him out and got everyone a step closer to the pay-outs.