How to play AA preflop?

[akatiger]

dont think it matters how u play pkt As,ive been stung twice theday already inside 10 hands, 1st raised 4x the pot called by 67 off and rivered with str8, then went allin with em and called by QJ off and again rivered with trip Js lol....well uve got 2 laugh

[scgirl]

Play AA hard and fast or risk loosin' the pot.
LoL should take my own advice...
I get caught playin' all pockets slow.


I would rather have pocket Q's

[tattmando]

with POPCORNyaaaayyyyyy popcorn woooohoooo

[jayccin]

all in everytime

[spades76]

i say just go allin on AA
but it is bad when they have a crap hand and they beat you

[scgirl]

Originally Posted by scgirl

Play AA hard and fast or risk loosin' the pot.
LoL should take my own advice...
I get caught playin' all pockets slow.


I would rather have pocket Q's

LoL...I changed my mind on this (AA)!!! Fold 'em dang cards they are evil....LoL...I've lost to many and to quick tryin' to play 'em
Never fails, the one hand I thought was half way decent get's beat with a str8 or a flush...everytime for me...FOLD 'EM.....lol...

[crinkle62]

shut your eyes and hit the all-in button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pmsl

[scgirl]

LoL....I do that a lot....lmao....shhh

[CJ66]

seen pocket aces busted loads of times personnaly hit it big but it is nice to slow play sometimes and suck them in a bit

[phattP]

suppose you have AA and the flop comes..9 4 2..how can you know if that flop is good for you?If another player then raises all in,do you fold or call?He might be holding pocket 9s..The point is ..I always end up going allin with AA one way or the other, so may as well cut down the chance of being beaten.
ALLIN every time for me, no hesitation

[maddarcy]

well i would first bet 200 chips before flop then on flop depends on how many called u hopely only a couple if u got another ace on flop go all in if not bet 100 chips same as river and watchout for flush u will now by betting if someone scores flush ..thats my way to play those 2 devil cards out of ten u will probaly only win 6 times on aces but its nice to get them ..

[DukeOfDeath]

Thought I'd bump this thread after I ran into this hand:

Everleaf Gaming Game #279944786
***** Hand history for game #279944786 *****
Blinds 25/50 NL Hold'em - 2011/06/16 - 01:43:41
Table 1
Seat 4
Total number of players: 5
Seat 1: Volobulis ( 1665 Chips )
Seat 2: DukeOfDeath ( 1900 Chips )
Seat 3: ilmtiti ( 1390 Chips )
Seat 4: JOK3R22 ( 479 Chips )
Seat 6: perry1579 ( 3566 Chips )
perry1579: posts 25 Chips]
Volobulis: posts 50 Chips]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DukeOfDeath ]
DukeOfDeath: nh
DukeOfDeath 150 Chips]
ilmtiti folds
JOK3R22 folds
perry1579: ty
perry1579 125 Chips]
Volobulis folds
** Dealing Flop ** ]
perry1579 checks
DukeOfDeath: 200 Chips]
perry1579 400 Chips]
DukeOfDeath 200 Chips]
** Dealing Turn ** ]
perry1579: 1,150 Chips]
DukeOfDeath: I have As
perry1579: q9
DukeOfDeath folds
perry1579 shows ] a straight, king high
perry1579 wins 1150 chips from main pot

Even if he hadn't told me Q9, I was folding. I would have probably called small bets knowing he could easily be drawing or have a low pair (or that I could make my own straight). Perry can be loose and aggressive, but he was kinda letting me know he had it by his bets. Even if it was a bluff, he would lose a lot making a habit out of it.

I think in general you win some you lose some with ANY hand. Aces just happen to be one you win much more often with, so you feel cheated if ever you lose. There are some general guidelines, though.

As it has been said, you shouldn't slow play. But why not? With one opponent As win 77%-94% of the time (85% against a random hand). With 5 you're already below 50% chance of winning. AA is rare, they're the closest thing you can have to two Wild cards in the hole. Why do something like limp early position and make your As worthless? Jockney makes a good point about limp early hoping someone will raise. If your choices are between calling and raising (obviously not folding) it depends on your opponents. If they're the limping type (like I see a lot) you shoot yourself in the foot if all 10 people see the flop (in which case you now won't even win 1/3 of the time). If they are aggressive then a limp can be good.

What if there's a guarantee that only 2 or 3 players will see the flop? Would you consider slow playing then? For instance you're short handed and Button and SB limped to you with As in the button. You're still winning 3/4 of the time AND you've disguised your hand. They'll feel a lot more comfortable with top pair and pay you off more.

I think all in all you should change it up. If As are the only hand you're comfortable enough to raise then people will learn to fold everytime you raise (unless you change your game) giving you no equity on such a good hand. But if people know you can raise with a ton of hands and/or limp with As, they'll never know quite what you have and will be out of their element. With this you can get some big hands paid off and pull off some sick bluffs too.

Anyway I think it'd be cool to sit down and think about this a lot more in depth (like how much value you get out of each action against different opponents with different hands and different boards), but that'll take a lot of time. In the mean time I'd like to start hearing other thoughts and reviving this discussion. Sometimes As are the "easiest thing in Hold 'Em" and so we never talk about it.

[sandokan23]

When i go all in preflop with AA i molstly loose.

When others do that, they all win

[DukeOfDeath]

Originally Posted by sandokan23

When i go all in preflop with AA i molstly loose.

When others do that, they all win

What if we noted every time we got As and kept a running total of BBs won or lost on the hand?

[CaptainSandy]

Duke,
2 points.
Firstly I agree you win more with aces than you lose it's just you remember the losses more.
Secondly, if that game was on the cash side I'd consider removing your post or at least editing the chat.

[OP66fozzy]

Originally Posted by CaptainSandy

Duke,
2 points.
Firstly I agree you win more with aces than you lose it's just you remember the losses more.
Secondly, if that game was on the cash side I'd consider removing your post or at least editing the chat.

I see nothing in the chat that requires editing, just a 'nh' and 'ty', then Duke telling Perry he has Aces before he makes the fold ? Whats wrong with that ?

[sandokan23]

Originally Posted by DukeOfDeath

What if we noted every time we got As and kept a running total of BBs won or lost on the hand?

An estimate guess aboutg 90% crashes..

[CaptainSandy]

Originally Posted by OP66fozzy

I see nothing in the chat that requires editing, just a 'nh' and 'ty', then Duke telling Perry he has Aces before he makes the fold ? Whats wrong with that ?

Duke states he has Aces, Perry says he has straight, Duke then folds.

You really see nothing wrong with that.

If it was on the cash side it could be perceived as OP66 players colluding with each other to the detriment of other players at the table.

[OP66fozzy]

Sandy, I really have no problem with that.

If players were going to collude in that fashion in a cash game, they would be doing it by IM and not on the chat bar.

[CaptainSandy]

I guess we see things differently.

I consider it cheating.