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Old 09-01-2009
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Default This must have hurt

i was watching a table and making player notes when i seen this hand.

gotta hurt for the guy with queens, but should he have re raised the re-raise.

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***** Hand history for game #102734296 *****
Blinds $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em - 2009/09/01 - 11:21:58
Table Edinburgh
Seat 5
Total number of players: 9
Seat 1: Kraljica ( $ 34.10 USD )
Seat 2: hmachado ( $ 50.20 USD )
Seat 3: Nemrah ( $ 49.75 USD )
Seat 4: doninha777 ( $ 49.55 USD )
Seat 5: hutupoker ( $ 86.55 USD )
Seat 6: Alexandr27 ( $ 25.45 USD )
Seat 7: FTZ_Motto ( $ 48.50 USD )
Seat 8: redkgb ( $ 32.80 USD )
Seat 9: Samatakin ( $ 137.13 USD )
FTZ_Motto: posts $ 0.25 USD]
redkgb: posts $ 0.50 USD]
** Dealing down cards **
Samatakin folds
Kraljica folds
hmachado folds
Nemrah $ 1.75 USD]
doninha777 $ 1.75 USD]
hutupoker $ 7.75 USD]
FTZ_Motto folds
redkgb folds
Nemrah $ 24 USD]
doninha777 folds
hutupoker $ 72 USD]
Nemrah $ 24 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** ]
** Dealing Turn ** ]
** Dealing River ** ]
Nemrah wins $ 99 USD from main pot with three of a kind, kings ]

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Old 09-01-2009
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QQ vs KK, very interesting hehe

KK bets meaning AJ+ range (including middle pairs)
QQ raises heavely meaning AK, JJ, QQ, KK or AA
KK re-raise meaning KK or AA
QQ re-re-raise meaning he does not understand
KK calls

Folding QQ is a must here! I think you can't fold KK against AA but someone calling here with QQ can only expect a 50/50 draw against AK in the best case
(Of course we don't know the players so it's more complex than that if they have some strong loose or tight images)

I don't think you can play QQ that way, better going all in directly behind the first bet, there you can say you're unlucky to see KK/AA against you (compared to the wide range of hands I've listed it's ok), afterward it's too late!

Edit : I've reported yet the fact hand history does not always show the hands at the end, here we should know both hands as they are all-in. Techs are on it
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yep, even a call would have been risky, let alone the re-raise(unless you had notes to suspect AK)

as for the guy on KK, i'd have probably called the 7:75 raise and not re-raised.
then checked the flop(trips)then went over the top if he bet.

probably why i dont win $99 pots
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yup hard to know which is the best move for KK here after seeing that 7.75 bet, I would say it depends of the extra info they have on players here
(I mean the question is how to maximize the hand, not to know if someone is holding AA...)
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