Bingo Defintion

[sexynomore]

Today, playing in the BC, the word bingo was used quit a bit. It seems everyone had a different meaning for the word.

I am curious for you to decribe the word bingo as it relates to both the tournaments and ring tables.

[teebs]

Well my definition of bingo would be someone that would play any 2 cards, even if they are crap. Also, calling big raises with any 2 cards. And last but not least, calling a big bet with 1 or 2 outers. I might not be correct but thats my view on bingo play...

[pam66]

as above

[missy_cilia]

i agree with Teebs,

[shezzabell]

i too agree with teebs

[tictalk]

before i catch the next off bus i would urge all members to have a look at kev's thread and try to see what odds they are "gambling"/ "chancing their luck/ percentages against" Poker Starting Hands when they are calling big raises with nothing but 2 rag cards, btw Mecca (in most towns now) are always looking for new members. As I stated in an other thread there is no gambling when there is nothing at stake i.e. (free chips) definition of gambling :- gambling or gaming, betting of money or valuables on, and often participation in, games of chance (some involving degrees of skill). In England and in the United States, gambling was not a common-law crime if conducted privately. Even in colonial America, however, gambling was liable to rankle public opinion because it was often associated with rowdy activities and could produce debtors who would burden society. Is there any value in free chips ?
(Gambling definition of Gambling in the Free Online Encyclopedia.)

[teebs]

Nice little paragraph there tictalk.....but....im not quite sure you answered the question?

[sexynomore]

LOL teebs ranting on ticster.

I think Bingo at the ring tables is the easiest to describe. It is prevelant at the lower stakes tables whereas a player (I call that player a Bingo player) goes all-in on every hand until they reach some level of chips before they leave the table and do it all over again.

In tournament play, I see some of this early on in the game but more common is the bluff move or someone going all-in on a K-J or A-K. I am not ready to call them bingo players with hole cards such as those.

The big differance between the two is that there is no re-load, only wait until the next tournament and then there is tomorrow.

[tictalk]

Originally Posted by teebs

Nice little paragraph there tictalk.....but....im not quite sure you answered the question?

anyone who don't understand what the percentages of the 2 cards dealt to them winning, will be playing HTH (hope to hit )poker, or (bet it now go out)

[teebs]

Ahhh ok. Yep agree with you tic. That pretty much describes bingo. HTH as u said.

[Mr_Slick]

Originally Posted by teebs

Ahhh ok. Yep agree with you tic. That pretty much describes bingo. HTH as u said.

Only if you dont know the percentages teebs m8..Thats what tictalk quoted, so how can you agree with him..? If a player has AK suited and doesn't understand the percentages then hes hth..? I dont think so. Steve.

[teebs]

Well no, but if a player has AK then his percentages pre flop are very much in his favour( even against a pocket pair where AK is about 46 or 48 %). I was agreeing with him in the sense that most bingo players do HTH with any 2 cards. Calling a big pre flop raise with 8 5 for instance is HTH, even if that player knows his percentages.

[Mr_Slick]

Originally Posted by teebs

Well no, but if a player has AK then his percentages pre flop are very much in his favour( even against a pocket pair where AK is about 46 or 48 %). I was agreeing with him in the sense that most bingo players do HTH with any 2 cards. Calling a big pre flop raise with 8 5 for instance is HTH, even if that player knows his percentages.

Ok palat explanation is good enough for me.. Steve.

[SweeneyTodd6]

BINGO is players who raise preflop with crap, players who play crap hands, players who go all in everyhand, players who play crap cards raise with nothing and suck out on river.

[teebs]

Lol well said Todd...Spot on! Couldnt have said it any better.

[Xtreem1]

Bingo play is whatever the loser of the hand (or current game) wants to call it. It is unfortunate that when someone is winning against the “bingo player” all is good. The problem doesn’t seem to start until they lose against the “bingo player.” Someone taught me a LONG time ago that when playing poker you should never try to teach the other player how to play better. Rather, you should just take their chips and comment on how unlucky they are getting or how unfair the game is. Knowing the whole time they are playing bad cards in a poor way. I personally think (and I know this is not the popular response) that people should play LIMIT poker if they don’t like the thought of a player going all in with any two cards. It does not matter, pre-flop, post-flop, or river, if you are playing NO LIMIT Texas hold’em then that’s the way it’s played. I don’t consider it ‘Bingo” to go all in when it’s allowed. This being said, I also don’t like losing with A/A against 7/2 off suit (happen yesterday, we were all in pre-flop) but I do want him calling with that hand pre-flop, and want him to do it every time. Is he playing “bingo,” as people like to call it, NO, he is playing NO LIMIT Texas hold’em and got lucky with a terrible starting hand against a great starting hand. I have said many times, I think we should all mix up our game, keep our opponents guessing. Sometimes that means playing poor cards out of position without the odds to play them that way. Isn’t it a better strategy to have them thinking you are a terrible player, with a bad understanding of position and odds, then when the time is right …. WHAMO, take the chips ;-) then again there are a lot of great opinions (above) on this subject and all should be considered and valued, I just think mine is the RIGHT one haha.

Xtreem

[chuckster66]

IM probably closer to Teebs response in agreement on what bingo is,However Xtreem's theory holds water with me.

[teebs]

Xtreem your comment is very interesting and very valid too. However, i think the whole bingo subject is mainly something that occurs with free chips. If u were playing some high stakes poker, im pretty damn sure u would never consider playing half the hands you play now. Furthermore, if you look at pro's playing, they do always play pretty premium hands and yes occasionally they will mix up their play, nevertheless they do know when to let go of their hands, unlike most online players which feel the need to chase and see all 5 cards.

But hey everyone is entiltled to their own opinion, and like i said, ur comment is a very valid one.

[Xtreem1]

Teebs - I do agree with what you say (mostly) but I play at the casino quite a bit and have seen LOTS of what people call "bingo play" there as well for thousands of dollars per hand, not as often, but it does happen. and yes, how you see the "pro's" play on TV is much different than in real life I am sure (except tournements)but like I said, all valid points. I dont disagree with any of them. I remain gratfull that we all play diff from one another or it would be a VERY boring game. I have ALWAYS said play chips will only mildly resemble what it's like to play for higher stakes real money. then again, I have seen much of the same play there as well, onine and in the casino.

[teebs]

But the ones that do make a considerable profit from the game do not play like this. If u compare those styles of play on the long run " bingo play" is definately not as effective. And when i say bingo play, i dont mean aggressive play... 2 different things.

And yes your right, if everyone played the same it would be a boring game.

At the end of the day, whether its play chips or real money, people can do whatever they want with it :P