Having good manners at the table

[fred913]

I shouldn't have to post this but it seems that the odd player doesn't know what good manners are. In todays mini mammoth I had a good hand, I raised the pot 150, all but 1 folded and she was thinking what to do, a player not involved in the hand typed in ' go all in', he obviously doesn't understand table etiquette, that if you are not involved in the hand you keep your big mouth shut. Later in the game he proceeded to play bingo, this is what annoys players. I expect he knows who i am talking about.

[mrsreaps]

yes fred i was on that table, and i can second that remark,, i know exactly who u mean,, and yes it was a case ov bingo with that player which isnt nice 4 other players,, that build their chips up with good honest play and then bang.... bingo play starts and people get taking out on decent hands all because bingo players wanna go all in on crap and win xx i dont wanna sound like i,m moaning as i dont have the right 2 but it does annoy me 2 xx

[Mr_Slick]

Originally Posted by fred913

I shouldn't have to post this but it seems that the odd player doesn't know what good manners are. In todays mini mammoth I had a good hand, I raised the pot 150, all but 1 folded and she was thinking what to do, a player not involved in the hand typed in ' go all in', he obviously doesn't understand table etiquette, that if you are not involved in the hand you keep your big mouth shut. Later in the game he proceeded to play bingo, this is what annoys players. I expect he knows who i am talking about.

Im in total agreement fred, obviously he was trying to incite her or hurry her to play her hand quicker than she liked. As you said, he later proved his own worth by bingo playing. A simple rule to take note of is None Players Off The Green.. Steve.

[fred913]

Exactly Steve, it is just good manners but some have none, we all joke on the tables but dont get involved in hands once we have folded, let the players involved play their hands their way, he was obviously an idiot, we have to put up with them unfortunately,

[white_wizard]

im with u fred non bowlers of the green

[Arezzo]

...I feel sorry to the player he was inciting...was she new?...advice on how to play while playing is pathetic...play your own game and shut it...

[symbolon]

I agree with you all, however, maybe it's because this person is new ( could be wrong about that )and doesn't understand the difference that we have come to expect of tourney players in the mini mammoth and are treating it more like micro madness for example.

I have found the difference in play to be at opposite ends of the globe so to speak. In micro they tend to have the early "All-ins" to establish a start and later "All-ins" when some find them self low on chips hence because there are so many players in differing positions throughout the course of the game it innevitably ends up just about "all-in" every other hand.

Now if some of these players have crossed over or even started in the mini they would expect that sort of play to be normal. So how do we get across that ( even I have been horrendously guilty and to my evential cost of doing this)is an expected course of play.

I am learning what is expected of an established poker circle, I guess there are no hard and fast rules to play otherwise the "All-in" would be banned and there would be no "tilt" allowed.

The final option really is not to rise to the bait and to play every hand, oh I wish we were all that restrained lol.

A good thread fred and understand how you all feel, just expressed a different view point and hope that won't offend anyone.

xxsymxx

[sandokan23]

Seen it in tourney's not that much, but on the tables, there are more players. Thats all they type in the chat, all the time. It is very anoying for me.

Everyone should play his own game, and dont tell others what to do.

I agree with you Fred.


Sandokan

[fred913]

The bingo play is annoying but I for one can put up with that but advising another what to do is very bad table etiquette whether online or in live games. The player he was telling to go all in was one of our experienced ladies and didn't need a loud mouth to advise her.In the end she did the right thing and folded a losing hand but had she listened to the idiot she would have lost all her chips because I would definitely have called her all in. The fact that he was advising her with no knowledge of her hand was lunacy in itself. Funny enough he never spoke again all through the tourney, gladly.

[symbolon]

You're right fred and I missed that part about telling someone in text how they should play, that is strictly "out of order".

Hopefully he has learnt his lesson, but have to say there have been players on the rings doing the same thing.

xxsymxx

[Xtreem1]

I dont think I or moon should be brought into the thread - it had nothing to do with us and that is just uncalled for. I do however agree that a player should be allowed to play however they like - bluff, all in, tight, etc. but I also agree NO player should ever be allowed to tell another player what to do in the middle of a hand or give away any info about their hand while the hand is still going on. I see this way to much.

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[fred913]

I don't know who mentioned you Xtreem but you were definitely not involved in this, and I have more sense than to name names in public.

[jazzsinger1]

i cannot say when a person should go in or not without knowledge of thier hand,its totally thier peroggative.as to call the hand which is entirely upto the indivuals making a call as to how to read it or assessed it based on thier hand.Its not bingo.I would not blame anyone going all in any game,its the players call.Definitely wrong is to intice someone or even make a comment on chat.no question about that.Haven t seen anyone do it so far,but then im a relativety new player,just a month oldin the tourneys..but its definitely uncalled for and should be taken up with the mods.no question about it.Right Said Fred!!!

[Ausangel]

Originally Posted by fred913

I don't know who mentioned you Xtreem but you were definitely not involved in this, and I have more sense than to name names in public.

The post was deleted Fred.

[jimggoldwing]

Interestingly enough, I had a similar beef recently... and I called the player on it at the table at the time. I think another form of very bad table etiquette is to chat "out of turn" about a potential bet... for example, well before the action gets to your turn, to type in "good luck me", more or less indicating that you're about to go "all in", or even typing in advance that you're going all-in... table talk that is clearly out of line.

[symbolon]

Then if you think that is the case Jim....... I extend my apologies........because I have been guilty of typing that ... I've seen it before and took it as a bit of fun and believed it to have been acceptable as noone has ever said anything to the contrary before.I don't recall you speaking to me about it at the time as it is usually when I am on my last 25 chips or so when I have done it.

If you have a problem though with anything that I do please feel free to pm me about it. I will be the first to apologise and as I always wish everyone good luck.

Soon they will take the text box away and there will be no fun at all!

xxsymxx

[fred913]

The only thing I said to the guy was, 'are you her adviser then' and left it at that, no point in getting in to a slanging match on the table. The annoying thing is that the guy in question probably never comes on the forum so all this is wasted

[symbolon]

No intention of getting into a slanging match fred not my scene. However, when a point is made and a valid one by Jim.... he feels aggrieved by either mine or someone elses actions.

I owned upto the fact that occasionally at the end of a game left with just a few chips ....... I have said "good luck me", most players have laughed and joined in the joke and even more when I get "lucky" however never enough to rally and win the game.

In future I will not make that remark, we all have to learn what is acceptable etiquette for poker and no doubt I will get it wrong again. God help you all when I get alzheimers like the rest of the family!

xxsymxx

[MoonPiee]

Fred,
I agree with you completely. Its completely inappropriate. I haven't witnessed it any on this site and haven't had anyone ever say such things to me but know it frustrates me in live poker so I can only imagine it would frustrate me here. I have witnessed (while the hand is still going on) somebody saying what they folded after the flop comes out. Makes me crazy. However, I have sat at a table when it was my call have said Oh, crap....or hmm...debating on what I should do. My rule of thumb is what I would say in live poker and have treated it the same here. Good thread Fred and its a good reminder for all on poker etiquette.

[fred913]

Yes moon that's a good point also, stating what you have folded before the hand is over can help a player wondering how to play his hand. Although stating you are going all just before you do it may technically be bad etiquette, I don't have much objection to it. I don't expect any of us are fully clued up on table etiquette really so minor wrongdoings should be overlooked I suppose and as Sym says we all learn by our mistakes.