Be as honest as you see fit

[rolyoc]

erratic is the word i'd use buddy very very good player on your day but can tend to over play a hand or bluff at the wrong time and look like a donkey but over all some 1 i watch out for on the table.

[SternSwiss]

Originally Posted by jockney

Ok My thoughts on Roly...

I think he is a much better player than he thinks he is but there is a tendancy to let the bad beats really affect his judgement on subsequent hands.

As far as my own game , I find I often get to the latter stages of tourneys but end up getting blinded out because I have waited too long to make a move.

Ok, posts follow quickly and no one commented on Jockney


Jock. First always a player I love meeting on tables. Class, humour and fairplay. My kind of table partner.

I haven't seen or played you much recently, and I guessed your game evolved a lot since we used to play regularly more than y year ago.




My earlier reads would comnfirm your "blinded out" statement: a bit too conservative, but also the corollary is that play is usually substantial.

I have the impression you got a bit more agressive but still not fully at ease with that (but I don't have enough table time with you of late to really say).



As for my game: utter randomness of outcome, here on OP66.
I honestly think, I can be pretty good and very lame here.

PArt of the very lame is me doing something else while playing, or being intoxicated, or just joining for a short break form my ever ongoing work and taking stupid risks I would never take normally, or getting annoyed at the play on tables an doing random stuff out of boredom. SO not really caring about results outcomes, placing, points or even medals anymore.

But I also make real, genuine, st000pid mistakes. I have yet to fully reanalyze my game for regular leaks, especially in money poker, where my bankroll goes well and up but there are still leaks; I feel it!

Amongst the strength: systematically trying to meditate on my real mistakes and learn from them, varying play a lot, and trying to find time to study, not only through books but with readings of as many table parameters, as possible, hypothesis, live calculation, retrospective observation of betting patterns when holdings shown, note taking, etc.





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[norwichrich]

i commented on jock and also agree with yours on him..

not played you enough swiss so will leave this one for someone who has

[TIDDLYW1NK]

OK I'LL COMMENT ON STERNSWISS, I BELIEVE HIM TO BE ONE OF THE MORE CEREBRAL PLAYERS YOU'RE LIKELY TO RUN INTO. HIS STYLE IS TOUGH TO READ AS HE MIXES IT UP VERY WELL. HIS STRENGTHS ARE HIS KNOWLEGE OF THE GAME AND FEARLESSNESS. I BELIEVE HIS WEAKNESS IS THAT HE CAN GET A BIT TOO AGGRESSIVE AT TIMES AND NOT LEAVE HIMSELF AN ESCAPE ROUTE FROM A POT. HOWEVER I THINK THIS SLIGHT WEAKNESS IS PROBABLY ONLY A RESULT OF PLAYING ON THE FREE SIDE AND KNOWING THE TENDANCIES OF SOME PLAYERS TO CALL WITH A DODGY DRAW FOR WHICH THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ODDS TO CALL. HE KNOWS THE ODDS, UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIM, THEY DONT. I VERY MUCH DOUBT THAT THIS WEAKNESS IS APPARENT IN HIS LIVE OR CASH PLAY. IN SHORT I THINK HE IS ONE OF THE BEST AND MOST AMIABLE PLAYERS YOU COULD HAVE THE PLEASURE OF MEETING. MEET HIM I WILL IN DECEMBER AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A VERY GOOD LIVE ENCOUNTER WITH A PLAYER I RESPECT AND ADMIRE

[TIDDLYW1NK]

MY BIGGEST WEAKNESS OF COURSE COMES IN A BOTTLE

[TIDDLYW1NK]

OK HAVING READ MY POST ABOUT STERNSWISS BACK, I DON'T THINK I EXPLAINED MYSELF VERY WELL. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT HIS STRENGTH (KNOWLEGE OF THE GAME) IS, ON THE FREE SIDE A WEAKNESS IN ITSELF, HE'LL REGULARLY MAKE THE CORRECT SIZE RAISE TO PROTECT HIS HAND, USUALLY A LARGE ONE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT IF HE'S RAISING INTO AN INFERIOR PLAYER WHO DOES NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND POT ODDS HE WILL BE CALLED BY SPECULATIVE DRAWS AND COME UNSTUCK WHEN THEY GET LUCKY. ALSO IN REAL PLAY A BLUFF IS A POWERFUL WEAPON, ON THE FREE SIDE THEY DON'T CARRY THE SAME CLOUT AND YOU CAN'T BLUFF OFF A CALLING STATION. I LOOK FORWARD TO PITTING MY WITS AGAINST HIM IN THE LIVE ENVIORENMENT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, I'M AFWAID I'M VEWY, VEWY DWUNK

[SternSwiss]

Originally Posted by TIDDLYW1NK

BELIEVE HIS WEAKNESS IS THAT HE CAN GET A BIT TOO AGGRESSIVE AT TIMES AND NOT LEAVE HIMSELF AN ESCAPE ROUTE FROM A POT. HOWEVER I THINK THIS SLIGHT WEAKNESS IS PROBABLY ONLY A RESULT OF PLAYING ON THE FREE SIDE AND KNOWING THE TENDANCIES OF SOME PLAYERS TO CALL WITH A DODGY DRAW FOR WHICH THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ODDS TO CALL.

Absolutely and a hundred times mate: by far my worst leak on here.

While, yes, it is a reaction developed to some specifics of playing here; it also took me over at first, back at the period on intermediate script. I had to quit playing here for some time, tighten nuts and bolts and filter out some pointing bad habits for I was getting a bit lousy / careless in RL games.

Now RL is back under control, and I am trying to address this problem here (as well as a few others).


I won't comment on the rest of your evaluation, and will pretend you never wrote that.


Greatly looking forward to finally meeting you too m8!


Bottles will be a shared weakness this evening, I foresee judging from the guest list. Cheers!



Other than that: cool and informative thread! Looking forward to following it further.

[SternSwiss]

Originally Posted by TIDDLYW1NK

OK HAVING READ MY POST ABOUT STERNSWISS BACK, I DON'T THINK I EXPLAINED MYSELF VERY WELL. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT HIS STRENGTH (KNOWLEGE OF THE GAME) IS, ON THE FREE SIDE A WEAKNESS IN ITSELF, HE'LL REGULARLY MAKE THE CORRECT SIZE RAISE TO PROTECT HIS HAND, USUALLY A LARGE ONE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT IF HE'S RAISING INTO AN INFERIOR PLAYER WHO DOES NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND POT ODDS HE WILL BE CALLED BY SPECULATIVE DRAWS AND COME UNSTUCK WHEN THEY GET LUCKY. ALSO IN REAL PLAY A BLUFF IS A POWERFUL WEAPON, ON THE FREE SIDE THEY DON'T CARRY THE SAME CLOUT AND YOU CAN'T BLUFF OFF A CALLING STATION. I LOOK FORWARD TO PITTING MY WITS AGAINST HIM IN THE LIVE ENVIORENMENT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, I'M AFWAID I'M VEWY, VEWY DWUNK

Dwunkedness makes you very clear and articulate, m8. I wonder if there is matter to worry


Makes total sense mate and it is absolutely that.

And a few times, I have regretted the exact second I clicked on a Button for a bluff bet by realizing who was yet to speak (like situation was fine for a move but forgot there was this calling station)....

Sometimes you simply get caught on moves for good reasons / holdings / reads and then it means: "Well Played, m8! Good calls".

I make less and less of them here. A few months back, it was much too many.

Never made too liberal use of them in RL.


Finally: yes, if I get called a few times by speculative calls which are way absurd odd wise, I get indeed "unstuck".

Same then when regular huge number of callers on preflop raises

I don't get angry or all, I get uninterested and start something else / leave the game or neglect it.


I don't compete for toplists or points anymore here, so if I don't have fun while playing I don't see the point.

It annoys me a bit because I am a patience-cyst in RL with real stakes and see that as a quality in players / persons; but I really have other things I prefer to do than play a game which I find random / against poker logics and hence (for me) uninspiring.

[future2112]

ok, here goes. i dont think im in a position to comment on stermswiss because i havent had the opportunity to play with him as much as would dearly like too. however, viewing his posts etc im pretty sure he has many strengths in poker because he obviously shows he has a knowledge of the game through his posts.

i will however comment on my good old friend telboy who hasnt received comments as yet.

telboys weaknesses. i think he lacks confidence in his own game. hes a much better player he probably credits himself to be. i feel he lacks a bit of aggression too. maybe plays too tight. this could lead to him being pushed off a hand he could probably win.

telboys strengths. very consistent. regularly reaches final tables. great tourny player. deffinately thinks about his game and doesnt get distracted. overall, if we were all pros playing for bracelets and big money he might not have many braclets but he'd be damn rich poker player thats for sure.

edit: forgot to post my weaknesses/strengths

my strengths: very patient. i think i read the game well and i also think i get a good read on players too. am able to adapt my game accordingly to suit various senarios. i dont stick to one style- not sure if thats a strength but anyhow.

my weaknesses. where do i start lol. can sometimes over analyze the game. easily distracted. can tend to get greedy sometimes and make rash calls.

[DeanReeves66]

my man future lol
his a very good aggressive player that has the ability to read players well probably better than i can lol and mixes up his play alot that makes him hard to read.. i think u have alot to learn about the game but when u do u will be very tough player to come up against, so watch out ppl lol.

weaknesses: playing over ur bankroll on the cash tables and needs to stick to bankroll management

[future2112]

Originally Posted by DeanReeves66

my man future lol
his a very good aggressive player that has the ability to read players well probably better than i can lol and mixes up his play alot that makes him hard to read.. i think u have alot to learn about the game but when u do u will be very tough player to come up against, so watch out ppl lol.

weaknesses: playing over ur bankroll on the cash tables and needs to stick to bankroll management

ahh yes my bankroll management.. deffinately an issue i need to address. but since receiving sound advice from yourself, dean, which im very gratefull for, i now try and curb my urge to play tables i really shouldnt be sat at.

great thread!

[lahambra2]

ok my thoughts on a few players mentioned for what they're worth...

Stern: one of my fave players to have on my table, having never played him in a cash environment i'm lacking information but a clever aggressive player who picks his spots well, has a good wide range and takes down loads of pots with good bet sizing and timing

As a weakness id say its possible to tell when he's irritated or not concentrating by his bet sizes and once noticed,this is a great place to attack him.

Future is a good player, not too passive and like dean said, changes his game up to deal with the player(s) in the hand rather than just the cards

in terms of weaknesses i would say future can wait too long before making moves that would otherwise take down the pot, leaving them there for the taking by the first aggressor.

When i first started playing poker i landed in the safety first calling station method of playing but i think i have successfully gotten rid of this and have a far more effective aggressive stance now in terms of betting, pot control & noticing when a pot is there for the taking.

weaknesses... well, where to start, concentration is the biggest killer for me, 20 seconds of non thinking can often decimate my stack and more often than not, this happens at the start of tourneys

[TIDDLYW1NK]

Ok i'll try, dont seem to run into this player too often. He's in my player notes. I aint sayin' what my notes say. I'd say he is a bit random and hard to read but a little loose

[wizz_]

Ive played Tiddly in a few tourneys,He is quite a reserved player holds back a bit ive seen him short stacked on many an occasion and comming back strong,i,ve seen him play loose also but less often,one of the best tourney players out there..

On myself I mix my game up a good bit i guess it depends on who im playing or the situation im very much a mood player i can play well at times and know when im beat and throw away a good hand and there's times i'll call to be curious knowing im beat..